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#1 In between tanks

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 08:53 PM

THinking of getting a black bream for my pond
What do i need to know
What to feed
Basically the works
Plus is it illegal to take one at size from river to put it in your pond and if it is ok how would you introduce it to the pond or just put them in

Edited by In between tanks, 25 January 2016 - 09:08 PM.


#2 malawiman85

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 09:08 PM

Not much to know mate. They like salt but are fine in fresh. They love shrimp and gambusia but commercially produced fingerlings are already weaned on to pellets.
In a pond, little ones will eat tadpoles, insects pretty much anything that will fit in their smallish mouths. They eat some vegetation so not sure how much of a mess they would make of submerged pond plants particularly if they get hungry.
They are pretty hardy, surviving lowish disolved oxygen levels to a point (smaller ones do better, big ones need more oxygen) and dont seem to be affected by moderately high nitrate levels.

#3 In between tanks

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 09:17 PM

If I got one from swan I can pretty much just put it in, will it affect my other fish Redfin, 68cm koi, or goldfish( don't really care about goldfish)

#4 malawiman85

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 09:25 PM

If you get one from the swan @ min 25cm acclimatise it to the freshwater slowly. I dont imagine there will be any issues with your other fish.

#5 In between tanks

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 09:31 PM

I am going tomorrow lets hope I catch a big one

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 10:59 PM

Remember to respect the legal limit. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

#7 In between tanks

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Posted 25 January 2016 - 11:31 PM

100%always will I

#8 chocky

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 11:08 AM

I would have thought bringing some wild caught will bring in bacteria and pathogens your captively kept fish are not use to and you risk killing your fish or making them sick?

also but I find this very hypocritical that you got upset over pet store using feeder fish, but you don't care about your goldfish if it gets eaten or sick from bringing in a black bream...

#9 In between tanks

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 11:42 AM

Well first of all all my fish except my goldfish I have caught my self so...
And I meant to say I care about the goldfish the least but that was a lot more words to write and I am lazy

#10 malawiman85

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 04:10 PM

More chance bringing home problems buying fish from gumtree than the river.

I was in an AP store recently and saw all their fish flashing very regularly. The guy reckoned they were "just itchy, not a problem."
What evz... bet they wouldnt do that after a dose of kusuri or praziquantel.
A pond and lily farm tried telling me that the fish I bought were flashing because my water wasnt hard enough... didnt ask me how hard my water actually was... any way its irrelevant because hardness obviously had nothing to do with it.
Point is, just because you pay good money for fish doesnt mean you get fish in good health.

#11 In between tanks

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 04:23 PM

Just got back and caught a massive fat 29cm black bream it was a good

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 04:29 PM

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#13 In between tanks

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 04:51 PM

Plus I also caught 11 more but they weren't big enough

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Posted 27 January 2016 - 01:38 AM

you should quarantine it and perhaps give it a dewormer and maybe a dose of internal/external parasite clear.... but mind you i recently caught some brasilliensis out of the river that looked like show quality fish and were very healthy.... your bream looks good.... personally i'd prefer farmed bream and they are already raised in captivity - you'll find your bream will be so skittish for a long time and may cause itself injuries smashing into things.... 



#15 chocky

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Posted 27 January 2016 - 07:35 AM

More chance bringing home problems buying fish from gumtree than the river.

I was in an AP store recently and saw all their fish flashing very regularly. The guy reckoned they were "just itchy, not a problem."
What evz... bet they wouldnt do that after a dose of kusuri or praziquantel.
A pond and lily farm tried telling me that the fish I bought were flashing because my water wasnt hard enough... didnt ask me how hard my water actually was... any way its irrelevant because hardness obviously had nothing to do with it.
Point is, just because you pay good money for fish doesnt mean you get fish in good health.

right
but you can see that the fish your buying isn't healthy, then you don't buy it.

#16 malawiman85

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Posted 27 January 2016 - 07:49 AM

Most of the time. Cant when the fish you are buying are in the bottom of a black AP tub or when ordering fingerlings on line, etc.
Bringing something out of the river has the odd risk but generally its exactly as Johnno said worms/flukes which is why I bothered to mention praziquantel and kusuri in my previous post. Johnno referenced another product Internal Parasite Clear... does the same thing.
When you pull in a fish you dont know 100% about its state of health but you look for a few things: obvious skin/scale/fin growths or damage, eyes are clear and seem normal, belly looks full... its obviously eating if it smashed your bait or lure. Bream or other estuarine species from the swan arent going to have ich...
Fish are pretty safe from the river normally.

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#17 In between tanks

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Posted 27 January 2016 - 07:54 AM

I checked if he looked healthy did all the normal check he looks fine




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