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#1
Posted 03 August 2011 - 03:27 PM
Cheers, Steve
#2
Posted 03 August 2011 - 03:34 PM
#3
Posted 03 August 2011 - 04:46 PM
#4
Posted 03 August 2011 - 04:57 PM
If u go bare bottom ull get a thin slimey film on the bottom..
Mainly due to all the fish poo that gets left there...
So u have to give it a wipe over every now and then otherwise you will have fry die alot..
Think its from them eatin it or something..
I find gravel is the best bet.....
Hope that helps..
Renato
#5
Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:26 PM
Mainly due to all the fish poo that gets left there...
So u have to give it a wipe over every now and then otherwise you will have fry die alot..
Think its from them eatin it or something..
I find gravel is the best bet.....
Hope that helps..
Renato
This is incorrect the bristlenose cats will do all the cleaning for you thats why every body breeds them they are just like a creepy crawly. If your fry are dying all the time it's probably water quality.cheers steve
#6
Posted 04 August 2011 - 01:01 AM
if you can keep 1000 b/n varying sizes from 1-4cm in a single 70 litre tank with glass bottom and using only 2 air driven filters then your a better catfish breeder/keeper than me....
gravel is the go!!! and best to go u/g filter as well.... theres a lot of stuff that grows in your gravel that b/n love to eat... after a quick gravel clean you should see them feed like crazy....
as b/n leave a fair bit of waste you'll find them swimming in shit at the bottom of a glass tank.... any tiny bit of ammonia buildup at the bottom of the tank and you'll get casualties... you may not even notice them dying off as overnight the other b/n eat them.... i can keep on going all night why gravel is better than glass bottom for b/n.... but i have better things to do!!!
#7
Posted 04 August 2011 - 07:53 AM
ill just let you know i successfully breed albino bristle nose on a sand bottom.
So by reading all the comments above, i guess it doesnt matter much which bottom you choose. As long as you have wood in the tank and even a few breeding caves.
#8
Posted 04 August 2011 - 08:19 AM
Something to think about I guess.
Cheers.
Edited by Bowdy, 04 August 2011 - 08:21 AM.
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 09:25 AM
#10
Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:33 AM
#11
Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:17 AM
Edited by Junglefish, 04 August 2011 - 11:22 AM.
#12
Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:33 AM
And put 2 inches of gravel on them as that acts as ur media for BB..
Ive changed from gravel to ugf recently after chatten to bigjohnofish and checkin out hes settups. And the amount of fry johno can raise is mad....!
Usually if ur gonna move fry make sure the water is the same as where they were born..
Ie;syphon some out of original tank.and add a lil bit of fresh water... And u should have minimal losses..!
Other than that u gotta clean fry tank regularly i do mine every couple days to keep water clean. As fry are more fragil to shit.
Anyways that works for me. ..
Good luck
Renato
#13
Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:07 PM
once the fry leave the cave the male has no impact on survival.... its all for one and one for all..... they really need to feed within first day or two or they will become weak... quite often too weak to even feed and hence they die off slowly over a few days..... food doesnt really matter as long as its not meat based.... they will eat anything vege based....
#14
Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:09 AM
I have also never experienced the film you talk about. I have 5 8+cm albino's breeding in a 1ft tank and they are all happy and the tank only has poo.
I have also heard the longer you keep them with the father the more they can eat. Apparently they feed of his poo or something for a short period of time. So leave them in and that should help there survival.
#15
Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:48 PM
some of the old ways of raising royal whiptail fry were to feed them snail poop.... still only resulted in low survival rates 5-10%.....
#16
Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:46 AM
Ahh never thought of ammonia burn. And thanks for clearing it up for me. I have left fry in wth the larger fish for the frst time recently and i cant see any dead fish and the small aout of fry doesnt seem to be getting less in mumbers. Anyways that is a little of track from the substrate topic. They like it dark so keep the floor dark colored be it painting the underside or dark substrate and you should be ok. Also paint the sides and back if you ahce the cnhance and you should get alot of fry
#17
Posted 03 September 2011 - 12:43 AM
this is a 70 litre tank and would anyone like to guess how many b/n there are in there.... thats pretty lightly stocked i've had twice as many at times... i remember one tank - i kept taking 50 x 3-4cm fry out each week to take down the shop... and after 3 mths it still looked like these pics below...
Edited by bigjohnnofish, 03 September 2011 - 12:45 AM.
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