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#1 Rodders02

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Posted 23 December 2016 - 11:52 PM

Very weird question, but my old man said next year he wants to take me on a fishing trip up north in Broome and possibly to qld to visit family (and fish... of course). Now I'm practically broke and I want to keep some of the more expensive natives (jacks, Saratoga) so it got me thinking (please don't take this the wrong way, I was just wondering if it's legal) if I was to catch a small specimen of either or both of these specimens (which is within in the size limit)would I be able to ship it live back to Perth with me or is it illegal? I'm guessing this is a really stupid question, I'm pretty dumb when it comes to this sorta stuff. And like I said before please don't take this the wrong way I was just curious, and I am expecting the answer to be a NO. Cheers, Tom

#2 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 12:52 AM

theres no law saying you must kill your legal sized catch before taking it home..... only fish i know that doesnt fall into this category is redfin perch - your not allowed to return them alive to the water regardless of what size they are... good thing is they arent bad to eat :) 

 

as for shipping them - im only using common sense here and i'd say shipping within WA wouldnt be too much of a problem... but as soon as you ship from outside of WA you need to go through quarantine and this incurs additional costs to you....

 

as far as i am aware you should be able to take home any legal sized catch and put them into a tank or pond.... 

 

if your wild caught fish is bagged and boxed for freight - i dont think anyone is going to know its origin... may have been captive bred on a fish farm and sold for ornamental purposes.... who knows.....

 

i dont think your breaking any laws but perhaps someone with experience in this area can shed some more light on this



#3 Rodders02

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 08:58 AM

Wise words ;). Quarantine costs shouldn't be too much of an issue, isn't it only 50 or 60 bucks?

#4 Mattia

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 09:21 AM

I'm not 100% sure, maybe the other boys that have been in the trade can help here, but I'm under the impression that you need a license to catch Saratoga ...

Hopefully someone reads this and can help.
If not, try and call one of the sponsor shops and ask them to ask the boss if they know ..)

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#5 Terry

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 11:57 AM

Regardless of the law the logistics would make it very difficult. If you catch a fish miles from anywhere you need be able to care for it, it will be stressed and stress kills fish. Then you have to be able to package it for freight, which means triple bagging with oxygen and placing it in an aviation approved box, if it's coming from interstate it must be booked with quarantine and the timing of arrival will have a big impact on cost and length of time in the box. 

Leave catching and transporting fish to qualified people who know how to do it, the fact that you asked here shows you are not qualified.

 

Enjoy your fishing trip

Cheers Terry



#6 Frontosaman

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 01:54 PM

I would assume you would need a translocation permit.


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#7 Rodders02

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 03:40 PM

Yeah alright, cheers. The other option would be to catch one and drop it off at a local fish shop, who could ship it over after the fish starts calming down.

#8 malawiman85

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Posted 24 December 2016 - 06:52 PM

Legal size wild caughts aren't going to ship or adjust to aquariums well at all. These fish are expensive to keep compared to most fish. If the $200 is too much then reconsider whether you can afford to keep them.

#9 Mr_docfish

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Posted 27 December 2016 - 05:50 PM

Legal size and bag limits and approvals to catch in a particular manner (ie nets or line) is up to the state that you catch the fisn in - you will have to ask a Banana Bender (QLDer) what their rules are....
As for translocation, it would be best to contact translocation@fish.wa.gov.au and get something in writing - it is a grey as a pack of HB pencils.... so ask first. (HINT: Mention that it is only for ornamental purposes)
If you can find a suitable esky (or bring one with you) then you can bring it as luggage - you might get away with not paying the fee if you declare it on arrival to an officer once you pick it up from the baggage claim area. Worst case scenario you will be charged a $55 fee.

Your idea of getting a LFS over there to ship it later is a good idea (if they are allowed to by their laws) - but don't get extras for other people, or they might consider it as selling them off, which you can't do in most states.





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