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#101 Bostave

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:05 PM

Immunity is passed on to offsprings through only two immunoglobins of the five and this happens only in mammals. Fish cannot pass immunity to their offsprings. Fish have innate immunity. Fish that have been vaccinated, have not passed on this immunity to their progeny.

#102 Tarpon

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:42 PM

Read the articles, a very small percentage of those available which confirm that immunity CAN be genetic

If you disagree then as a supposed scientist, please attach a link completely refuting that immunity can never have a genetic basis

Otherwise you make unsubstantiated claims

 

Viruses DO mutate, just because it hasn't been discovered yet in KHV is not a guarantee that it will never happen



#103 keleherr

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Posted 18 July 2016 - 12:30 AM

Your articles support the two processes I mentioned in previous post in particular the mutation part

HIV

carry a genetic mutation that makes them highly resistant to HIV infection. This mutation, called Delta32, keeps a protein called CCR5 from rising to the surface of the immune system’s T cells

Hep c

This Review discusses the possibility that genetic mutations confer resistance against hepatitis C virus

 

These are genetic mutations which generally occur at conception and are not adaptive immunity. The post prior was saying the carp that do develop immunity through adaptive immunity will not pass this on to their offspring in response to the comments made in the quoted post about carp not every kingdom. The chicken pox bit was an example of an instance immunity isn't passed on to put it into perspective but bostaves example would have been more fitting.



#104 Den

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Posted 20 July 2016 - 08:51 PM

Im not sure why there is an argument about the carp population developing immunity, its already proven to happen overseas and expected to happen here.

 

 

Mr Warrick was sceptical the project would see the 95 per cent success rate as touted by the Federal Government.

 

He said the species' numbers in Israel had rebounded since the virus was released.

 

The carp that survived the virus in Israel became immune to it.

 

 

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http://www.abc.net.a...roblems/7374658



#105 dicky7

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Posted 31 July 2016 - 03:37 PM

have anyone  else seen this ??

 

http://www.detroitne...turns/87697534/



#106 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 01 August 2016 - 11:59 PM

i reckon this could be a good solution for us too :) :) :)  what do people think 

 

http://phys.org/news...apon-asian.html



#107 Bostave

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 03:34 AM

The alligator gar is not native and is on the no import list in Australia.

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Posted 02 August 2016 - 08:54 AM

It would end badly any hows

 

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#109 malawiman85

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 07:24 AM

I did a quick search and found no news on this since early/mid 2016.
Has anyone heard or seen an update on the subject?

#110 Bostave

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Posted 04 March 2017 - 07:44 AM

They are implementing a similar strategy to control rabbits. The previous attempt could not wipe out the rabbit population in cooler regions of nsw. The recent attempt will target the rabbit population in these regions.

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Posted 22 March 2017 - 02:59 PM

I just saw an article shared by Recfishwest on their facebook page. Extra salt killed a lot of feral carp or something along those lines? Happy days



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Posted 23 March 2017 - 12:02 AM

They are implementing a similar strategy to control rabbits. The previous attempt could not wipe out the rabbit population in cooler regions of nsw. The recent attempt will target the rabbit population in these regions.

 

despite all the rabbit viruses released and those that have escaped onto mainland and the more recent virus believed to have originated from afghanistan that hitched a ride illegally on an illegally smuggled rabbit (i assume) HAVE STILL FAILED to wipe out feral rabbits.. we have newly born babies everywhere at the moment to the delight of my dogs :) 

 

the same will happen to the carp... except carp breed like rabbits x 100,000 and as seen in israel years after khv was released the carp population has rebounded to previously levels... honestly you may as well go down to the river and throw stones at them...  what a total waste of time and tax payers money...


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#113 Bostave

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Posted 23 March 2017 - 08:29 AM

The virus that was infected in the rabbits was effective however the rabbits in colder regions of nsw were the ones that survived. It is believed that the temperature render the virus ineffective there.
The new virus has been modified to address limitations of the virus tried before.

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Posted 25 March 2017 - 12:45 AM

not sure exactly how nsw rabbits travelled approx 3000km to perth and arrived in my back yard....  oh i know - perhaps the viruses released to kill rabbits didnt work.... 

 

just like khv wont work.... 

 

soon they'll be releasing viruses to control kangaroo population that has recently exploded up our way with all the early rains the grass is 5 foot tall - same time last year the grass wasnt even green....  makes it easy to shoot roos for dog food though :)



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Posted 01 April 2017 - 04:54 PM

http://mobile.abc.ne...816?pfmredir=sm
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#116 malawiman85

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 07:58 PM

Whether you're for or against, the following has some interesting information.

http://www.pestsmart...arp-herpes-faq/

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Posted 05 May 2017 - 08:57 PM

How about the government giving aid to malnourished kids overseas in carp fillets for school lunches maybe ? Isn't a massive biomass die off in a river a concern as well? Where are they with the daughterless carp gene splicing seemed the best solution to me ?


Edited by boops, 05 May 2017 - 09:18 PM.





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