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[Westie]

I picked up a couple of Neon Jewel Cichlids from Pet Magic in Bibra Lake this week, as they are now available from Aquarium Industries. I am no good at taking photos, so please excuse the poor quality photos. Hope you enjoy the pics:

 

 

 

 

 

I was trying to find the scientific name for these fish, but according to this post on PCS way back in 2008 they may be hybrids (CLICK ME).

I've also read in a book by the great man Anton Lamboj that this may be the case. 

According to the latest list of stock from Aquarium Industries, they have 10cm males available. If they are indeed hybrid, then the bigger males would look the part in a planted display tank (not for breeding). 

 

Thanks for looking, and I'd love to have people's feedback on Neon Jewel Cichlids. 

[Hood]

So what's the theory behind these being hybrids? Are they an inter variant crossing or an actual inter species hybridization?


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[Poncho]

i do like the red in the jewel cichlids but these are attractive fish. I'd be interested to know if all juveniles bred will look like the parents or like the ebjd, some just carry the neon blue gene

[Hood]

Interesting that you mention the electric blue Jack Dempsey, Poncho. That is what I was wondering, if these are indeed a hybrid. Or, like the EBJD just a recessive gene that was isolated through selective breeding over generations? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Edited by Hood, 09 November 2016 - 07:38 AM.

[Hood]

I found this quote from a forum member called 'scrubjay' on cichlid-forum from 2010, seems he was a PCS member and was looking into this species.

"I have just borrowed 'The Cichlid Fishes of Western Africa' by Anton Lamboj from the PCS library to try and find out more about the Hemichromines.
Here is what he says about Hemichromis sp. "Neon":
'No concrete (only confusing) information has been relayed about this species. It is sometimes viewed in the trade as a species imported from the Congo (or sometimes from Nigeria) and at other times as a hybrid - but if so, of what species?'"

I find it really interesting how much mystery there seems to be about these fish. Maybe someone from PCS committee with access to the library could at least clarify this quote?

I also found mention of a discussion here on PCS about someone who had bred these very fish apparently. A forum member by the name of 'crazy fish lady' here: http://www.perthcich...showtopic=57530

She claims they are an aquarium line bred strain not hybrid confirmed by someone at ncws? Seems she took pre orders for fry. Does anybody remember this, did people get fry? Is this member still around? Would like to know if this species breeds true. It'd be interesting from a genetics stand point.
Anyway sorry, that's enough musing from me...


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Edited by Hood, 09 November 2016 - 06:27 PM.

[Westie]

I can clarify the quote. My fish book collection would be close to on par with the PCS library
This is taken from page 122 of the book "The Cichlids Fishes of Western Africa" ISBN3-928819-33-X


I have 5 books on West African cichlids, but 2 of them are in German. Only decent amount of info is found in the book quoted
If there was a recessive neon gene in say the Hemichromis so. "Guinea 1" then it could just be line bred and not a cross

Dunno about the post by crazy fish lady. Seems she posted, then took off, only to reply to that thread when someone queried it. For all we know, those fish could have been the supply going to AI.

[Hood]

Awesome. Well cheers at least for following that up for me Jason82. Seems I just have to leave it there for now that it is unconfirmed as to whether it is hybrid or just line bred. Maybe someone who has actually bred them may be able to chime in.


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