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#1 Chris Perth

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 08:39 AM

Aquired this in a group of common bn's but it is far from it. Bought a breeding group of 8 adult bn's (5m & 3f) this was the smallest of the males at 7.5cms Hope the video works.Attached File  20161129_120939.jpg   93.44KB   10 downloadsAttached File  20161129_120933.jpg   94.64KB   10 downloads

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#2 Hood

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:10 PM

I only see a blurry still frame and it looks like a common "silver tip" bristle-nose from what I can see. Thought not a full "silver tip" but I can see some tipping on the tail. Hope this helps. Unless you can elaborate more on what you were hoping to acquire?

#3 Chris Perth

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 12:16 PM

Have uploaded better still (vid didnt work) as I said I bought what were described as common bn, but this fellow on subsequent examination did appear anything but common - allthe rest are definately commons. I posted a pic of one with a hugh head of btistles a few weeks ago - and I have never heard of "silver tips"?

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#4 Hood

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 03:55 PM

Silver tips are just commons that have been selectively bred for the white/silver tips on the end of their fins.
This guys tail does look different. Could be a random anomaly from a batch of fry or maybe could have come from a cross. Interesting non the less.
I'll have to do some google image searching. ;)

#5 Hood

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 04:39 PM

Images are still a bit blurry for me to make any accurate assumption, but here peruse this and see if it helps: http://www.planetcat...?article_id=377


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#6 Poncho

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Posted 29 November 2016 - 09:29 PM

I'm not seeing anything that suggests it's not a common bn other than a lack of pigment in the tail.

What's got you convinced it's something different?

#7 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 01:20 AM

i agree its just a common bristlenose... i see these in the 1000's everyday and theres always a slight visual difference popping up in some...

 

its like people you get white people and black people and all the inbetween colours.... then you get the red heads and blondes and asians and native american indians etc etc.... all people with slight variations... much the same as the common bristlenose..... 



#8 Chris Perth

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:21 AM

I'm not seeing anything that suggests it's not a common bn other than a lack of pigment in the tail.
What's got you convinced it's something different?

No was not convinced that it was anything different, other than, was it a specific line bred variety, eg. Marbled, lemon, longfins etc as I had not seen this colouration (lack of pigment) in the tail before - almost like someone was trying to breed a black/brown and white bn. Bare in mind I have been out of fish for a number of years, and all these line bred varieties are new to me

Bit of a streatch John, but I like the analagy LOL

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#9 Ageofaquariums

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 06:28 AM

Due to the bristlenose in the Australian

trade likely being the result of multiple Ancistrus species being hybridized, its normal to expect some variation in fry.



#10 Poncho

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 07:30 AM

Don't worry - I find it hard to keep track too and haven't had much of a break in comparison. I Thought I was missing something after reading your post and wanted to know what it was.

If you find bn confusing, wait a while before you start looking at guppies and shrimp - the amount of line bred variations in the hobby at the moment is phenomenal. Even plants like Java fern are coming with 10 different varieties - it's a very different hobby

#11 Chris Perth

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 10:03 AM

Due to the bristlenose in the Australian
trade likely being the result of multiple Ancistrus species being hybridized, its normal to expect some variation in fry.


Unfortunately I think that is also the case with many cichlids as well. When I first started out almost 40 years ago, it was thought that our bn (in Australia) were A.temminikii, which was then later thought to be dolichopterus so I can well understand the confusion and the constant hybridisation (all be it accidental initially)

Anyway I like the look of this fellow, so will keep him in a tank where he can not breed.

Thanks for all the input people.




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