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#1 Hypanheaven

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:52 PM

Any suggestions?
Here are the latest. 9/2/13

Finally the design is finished, poor old Paul at Morley has a task on his hands now! T
Stand made with 40mm square tube
External weir box and the new sump design, the small first chamber will be for K1 and then 2 compartments after that for sponge and media








NEW sump design 12/2/13



Edited by Hypanheaven, 14 February 2013 - 10:57 AM.


#2 Buccal

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Looks good.
With today's filtration technology, if in your boots, I'd use it.
I think, do exactly what your doing, double the size of your sump or another sump to make a pigeon pair.
The extra space or sump can be filled K1 filter media being agitated with a air pump.
This will give you optimum filtration for a little more effort.

#3 aussiemcgee

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

Very jealous, looks like it'll be awesome.
Can never have too much sump tho, bigger ther better!

#4 Hypanheaven

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

i will extend the sump another 200mm and incorperate a 3rd chamber for K1 i think

#5 Wetlips

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:31 PM

hahha settle down my architect, your all scared because i leapfrogged you in the tank world lol

another nightmare for sal too look after


#6 Peckoltia

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:38 PM

Looks like it's going to be a nice tank mate.

What are you putting in it?

Hopefully you don't sell it in 3months time like everything else.

#7 Wetlips

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE (Peckoltia @ Feb 4 2013, 04:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hopefully you don't sell it in 3months time like everything else.


anyone keen on a wager


#8 ant86

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

awesome drawings dude.. going to make life alot easier smile.gif whats the heights of the sump tank? oh and whats size steel where you working your drawings out with?

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#9 Hypanheaven

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 05:35 PM

I used 50mm square tube steel for the stand it's all to scale ant ill meet up withuyou when I get home to organise it i have to alter stand to accommodate the longer sump already have redesigned the sump will post it up soon

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:27 PM

All good champ l normally use 40mm by 3mm square tube for anything over 400ltrs. smaller then that 40mm square by 2mm.. but 50mm by 3mm is good wink.gif just alil more $. Let me know when your back mate

#11 theKid

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

Look into an external weir box if you have room, cleans up the look of the tank inside. I would also try to have the sump as close as possible to the drain end to keep those pipe runs short and as vertical as practical.

I would use 50x5, but my stands tend to be ridiculous overkill...

#12 ant86

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:42 PM

Hahaha 5mm is pretty overkill tongue.gif no offence but Thats crazy lol smile.gif

#13 theKid

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:40 AM

Luckily work has a crane and forklift, it was a bit heavy. I've seen 6' stands of the same material with no middle supports at all, so it probably was a bit much.

#14 Hypanheaven

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

ignore that i want the sump

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#15 Hypanheaven

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:58 PM

QUOTE (theKid @ Feb 4 2013, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look into an external weir box if you have room, cleans up the look of the tank inside. I would also try to have the sump as close as possible to the drain end to keep those pipe runs short and as vertical as practical.

I would use 50x5, but my stands tend to be ridiculous overkill...


the reason i have the sump on the side closer to the pump return holes is that i have noticed with sumps the noise comes from the return pumps not the overflows. The overflows will have 45 degree elbows instead of 90's on the way to the sump. I want to minimise piping on the pump delivery side.

I am talking with paul now about an external wier, or i may make a corner box not to sure yet, will keep thinking.

#16 Hypanheaven

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:10 PM

spoke to paul, he is making an external box weir for me which will be great, i will design one up tonight on my tank. going to have the box 300mm deep so that i wont have to worry about beananimal or anything like that so that saves me some work. The depth of the box will not allow a whirlpool which in the end means no gurgling.

#17 theKid

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:18 PM

Nice smile.gif I would use a 3 pipe drain if you can fit it still, similar to the bean animal but less complex. First is the main drain flush with the bottom of the weir, this has a ball or gate valve to close till the water level begins to rise. Next a durso which sets the water height in the weir, make it just tall enough to stop splashing noise as water goes from tank to weir. Lastly an emergency, simply a pipe usually set to the bottom of the brace to take the flow if one of the others gets a blockage before you get wet carpet. Being totally open it will make a nice toilet noise to let you know to check it out too.

Use as much hose instead of pipe for your return, will cut down on noise. The larger the diameter the longer the run needs to be to dampen vibration.

Also noticed, depends how much you like your stand maker but you probably don't need the extra cross members under the sump. A piece of 18-24mm marine ply would do the trick for less hassle if you wanted to.

Lastly if piece of mind is a priority (you work away?) I would consider using schedule 80 plumbing. VDL bulkheads and ball valves are the ducks nuts, heavy duty, high quality and real seals so your not hoping a bit of thread tape with hold all that water in. Plus the grey colour tends to blend in nicely.

#18 Hypanheaven

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:44 PM

were can i get schedual 80 from

#19 Wetlips

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

Now that's the ducks nuts mmmmm I want a wier now Hahha

#20 STONER27

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

where are you getting it made matey? looks very manly




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