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#1 Westie

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 04:24 PM

So the local council puts on their Facebook page photos of a new boardwalk installed over the local waterway. On Sunday I go for a walk to have a look. I noticed a lot of feral fish (carp?) including this dead one floating.....

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I was really disappointed to see this. Why doesn't the local council use native fish?

 

And today in the news I read this:

http://www.watoday.c...813-103njy.html

 

What next?



#2 malawiman85

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 04:39 PM

Id be surprised if councils stocked with carp. I would have thought its more likely a case of some inexecusably retarded person throwing their worthless pond fish in there.

Edited by malawiman85, 13 August 2014 - 06:54 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2014 - 05:00 PM

I agree with MM

#4 Moses

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 07:22 PM

Should have pulled the floater out and killed it again. With fire.



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Posted 13 August 2014 - 08:46 PM

^ much anger in you, there is.

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 09:05 PM

Definitely haha

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 12:37 PM

So are you going to do some 'prawning' in that pond then?



#8 Westie

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Posted 14 August 2014 - 10:26 PM

I will be contacting the City of Cockburn and ask them if I am allowed to remove feral fish

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 11:23 AM

Swan river trust is no longer an entity either. They were absorbed when Barnett defied to split DEC I to two departments. So that's puzzling that they have a spokesperson.

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Posted 15 August 2014 - 08:21 PM

they haven't been merged with Dept of Parks and Wildlife yet. Will be soon though

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 09:46 PM

Just an update on this. A friend came over yesterday and said that he saw Murdoch Uni doing some kind of testing of the lake recently. Anyone know who I can contact at Murdoch Uni to see what they were doing? Would love to see if they are interested in eradicating feral carp

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Posted 20 June 2016 - 10:39 PM

Keleherr

Edited by malawiman85, 20 June 2016 - 10:40 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2016 - 03:33 AM

Just an update on this. A friend came over yesterday and said that he saw Murdoch Uni doing some kind of testing of the lake recently. Anyone know who I can contact at Murdoch Uni to see what they were doing? Would love to see if they are interested in eradicating feral carp


I was at Ascot dog park when a team from Murdoch arrived there at midday a few months back. They used a seine net and were trying to catch fish to determine which species inhabited around that time. They had a team member using a probe to measure pH, salinity and oxygen concentration. I got this info when I asked them about what they were doing.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 06:28 PM

What lake in Cockburn was it and where abouts is ascot dog park? Couldn't find it in google



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Posted 01 July 2016 - 07:57 PM

Sorry. Riverside dog park in Bayswater. Opposite Ascot race course.

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 09:41 PM

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Moved on to greener pastures at the start of this year but still in the loop..........kinda

Just an update on this. A friend came over yesterday and said that he saw Murdoch Uni doing some kind of testing of the lake recently. Anyone know who I can contact at Murdoch Uni to see what they were doing? Would love to see if they are interested in eradicating feral carp

Do you mean Baler Reserve? Was probably people doing invert or water quality stuff.

This isn't me trying to shoot you down, I think it is good people care about natives, this is just what I've picked up over the years.

Most of Perth was built on swamp or ephemeral wetlands that dried out regularly locking nutrients into the substrate and never really had any natives in them, unless connected to a river. These reserves/wetlands/parks are essentially metropolitan drains for developments with a car park, lawn and a swing set. You now have a massively modified system receiving heaps more water, nutrients (from peoples lawn etc) and nasty crap (like hydrocarbons). Because these "wetlands" rarely dry out and receive a massive amount of nutrients they become for lack of a better word I can use a crap hole. In the grand scheme of things a few goldies aren't a big issue if its a closed system, Pygmy Perch might not even technically be native if they were stocked in this instance. I do agree more should be done but it should be in the rivers.

 

The only real way to remove introduced fish from a system is to get in before they establish a widespread population (like with the pearl cichlid........................) or drain the whole thing (like with the pearl cichlid........................). You can go in with nets etc, remove a few and feel good but at the end of the day time is money and the amounts dedicated to such tasks is enough to achieved SFA.

 

The red tape is also a joke. For a council to stock a pond the legit way with local genetic strain of native there is all kinds of hoops they have to just through and high costs so most of them say stuff it.

 

 

Sorry. Riverside dog park in Bayswater. Opposite Ascot race course.

That was probably the estuary group or students. Was there an English sounding bloke with them?



#17 Westie

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Posted 01 July 2016 - 10:53 PM

That's interesting to know, and thanks for that. Photo was taken at Christmas Tree park in Hammond Park.
Corner of serenity parkway and jackadder avenue




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