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#1 cornish cream

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 05:58 PM

Hey guys

 

Any of you out there had any dealings with importing plecos or loaches from Thailand.

 

If so, how did it go, what was the quality like, is there any saving on buying here in Oz.

 

Any experiences good or bad would help.

 

:cheers:



#2 slink

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 06:58 PM

Good luck is all I can say :)


You need to have a AQIS approved quarantine I'm sure either pacco or Ollie can expand a little as well. I'm sure it's not a easy or cheap process

#3 werdna

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 08:34 PM

Simple, you can't :)



#4 pacco

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 10:19 PM

You can import Clown Loach, Pakistani Loach and Dwarf Chain Loach. Only pleco you can import is L168. Need an approved quarantine premise, supply from an approved exporter and pay a whole bunch of fees.

 

Cheers

Pacco



#5 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 30 January 2014 - 11:12 PM

hit the nail on the head pacco.....

 

as far as plecos go - we only have whats already here and bred.... stuff that arrived pre 1984 (i think its 84)

 

and as far as L168's go i think they send australia all the males anyway :(


Edited by bigjohnnofish, 30 January 2014 - 11:22 PM.


#6 noaddedsalt

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 01:34 PM

Have also put some thought into this lately if thats the case that you can only import 168s in there would Defiantly have to be some smuggling going on

#7 malawiman85

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 02:24 PM

Thats crazy talk man!

#8 cornish cream

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:21 PM

Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated.



#9 Redevilz

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 11:09 AM

If your looking for rare plecos look around on Australian Plecos forums or Maybe look over easy and see if you could import some from over east.

#10 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 11:51 PM

Have also put some thought into this lately if thats the case that you can only import 168s in there would Defiantly have to be some smuggling going on

 

a lot of stuff come into australia before restrictions and quarantine was established.... these fish and their progeny are pretty much whats here in the way of plecos.... if they arent on the noxious list then they have been tolerated and left in the hobby... some of these are on the grey list also pending further investigation...

 

lots of variations of the plecos that were here have appeared from time to time through breeding... long finned varieties... albinos , leucistic fish.... and no doubt some hybrids too....

 

but yes it would be hard to believe that no fish have ever been smuggled into the country :) after all plenty of seizures of fish have happened so one could assume they didnt catch them all :)



#11 noaddedsalt

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 03:48 AM

Real shame people should even have to go to those lengths when you look at people in other countries that that can import or pick up some super nice fish for great prices.

#12 malawiman85

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 09:00 AM

Especially when Australia has pretty much the most munted aquatic ecosystem on the planet. The good waterways have been ruined by agricultural dependence or stocking for anglers.
Native fish in all southern states are in dire trouble and its got nothing to do with aquarium fish taking over! Too bad these government types are such fruit cakes.

#13 sandgroper

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 12:48 PM

Yes there hypocrites alright.



#14 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 12:39 AM

Especially when Australia has pretty much the most munted aquatic ecosystem on the planet. The good waterways have been ruined by agricultural dependence or stocking for anglers.
Native fish in all southern states are in dire trouble and its got nothing to do with aquarium fish taking over! 

 

well who introduced redfin perch to the southwest? need their nuts cut off !!!  they are never going to get rid of them now... and prob only a matter of time till they turn up in the swan and canning river systems if they arent already in there.... done some googling on them and when they lay their eggs they are covered in this bitter gel like coating that nothing eats... hence near on 100% hatch rate.... and after seeing them feed they are more ferocious eater of live food than any cichlid i have seen... put them in the same class as something like a mangrove jack minus the teeth of the jack! :)



#15 werdna

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 01:16 AM

Which is why the rules are so strict. It only takes a couple of idiots.
It was a cichlid keeper that released braziliensis.
Not to mention the amount of koi and goldfish out there.

#16 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 03:09 AM

definitely worth repeating andrew :) 



#17 werdna

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:02 AM

Fixed :)
See, even admins double post some times!

#18 Androo

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:23 AM

Sometimes I wonder, did someone have a batch of braziliensis juvies they couldn't get rid of so dropped 20-100 juvies in the river or couldn't sell a pair and they thought be free my pretties

Edited by Androo, 03 February 2014 - 08:24 AM.


#19 malawiman85

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 10:36 AM

Fixed :)
See, even admins double post some times!

Yeah but now Johnno's comment isnt funny.



#20 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 04 February 2014 - 12:42 AM

:agreed: but its such an important issue... i knew i shoulda quoted it... but your not allowed to quote from above post :) i woulda got nailed that way too  :Rofl_3f:






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