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Rapid breathing Bloating Ilness Rosy tetra

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#1 WITchY65

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:12 PM

Type of fish: rosy tetra
Symptoms: rapid breathing, no other symptoms. previous fish died after 1 week of rapid breathing and becoming bloated loosing interest in food(this happened about 3 months ago)
Other tank mates: 3 spot gourami x1, pearl gourami x2, 6x neon, 3x rosy tetra, 2x bn pleco
Tank size / capacity: 250L
Type of Food fed: new life spectrum, micro pellets
Feeding frequency/amount: 1x day couple pellets 
Substrate: aquasoil 
Type of filtration: external aprox 800L/ hr
Frequency of filter cleans: every 6 months 
Frequency and % volume of water changes: 25% every 3 weeks
Last water change: 1 week ago 
PH: 7.6- 7.8
KH:
GH:
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: <10ppm
Ammonia: 0ppm
Phosphate:
Water temp: 27
Medications used recently to date: I used a dewormer on entire tank and some salt. No improvement. 
Any recent changes..new fish/filters/power outages etc etc: nothing

 

So this happend to my previous rosy tetra, rapid breathing otherwise no other symptoms. Happily swimming eating until after a week. Then he died but was bloated and had eyes bulging. I attempted to treat him with a dewormer and salt as recommended by a friend. I increased oxygen with an air stone but doubt it was oxygen deficient as my aqaurium is heavily planted and understocked. For safety I dewormed my entire aquarium. 

After he died there was no other fish with these symptoms. Now I have another beginning to breath rapidly and I'm worried the same may happen to this guy... 

 

Any ideas what this is or what I can do?? 



#2 In between tanks

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 05:29 PM

Try doing a water change every week and increase the air/ bubbles in the tank and drop the water level in the tank so their is more surface movement= better oxygen in the water

Edited by In between tanks, 10 January 2017 - 05:31 PM.


#3 Hood

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:12 PM

As your water approaches 30Deg Celsius it is less able to hold oxygen. Often a problem on the hot days of summer. As suggested more airation and surface agitation should solve this along with more frequent water changes. The bloating however could be a gut parasite or sometimes compressed pelletised food swelling after consumption. sent from Huawei P9 using tapatalk app.

Edited by Hood, 10 January 2017 - 09:14 PM.


#4 malawiman85

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:58 PM

If it were an O2 problem, odds are other fish would have had the same drama. As it was only one and now just one more it's probably not water chemistry. More likely disease.

#5 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 01:32 AM

worms can be a silent killer... sometimes goes un-noticed for some time until infestation levels are reached then its too much for the fish to cope with and it stresses and usually dies if left untreated....

 

what worming treatment did you use ?  and did you use it as per label... and kept an eye on ammonia levels incase bacteria takes a hit.... any medication has the potential to kill off bacteria numbers.... and secondary problem of rising ammonia comes into play and contributes to fish stress and ultimately death.....

 

not uncommon with worms that fish start dropping off over an extended period as weaker infected fish die first..... usually smaller ones....  



#6 Ageofaquariums

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:33 AM

Could be a bacterial infection attacking gills.....  or even their insides.



#7 WITchY65

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:51 PM

Hey thanks for the replies :) I had treaded him with blue planets fluke and tapeworm tablets that contained praziquantel. It didn't seem to do anything for him unfortunately.

I may add some air stones in to be on the safe side and do some extra water changes.
Oh and I definitely followed the instructions on the label!! :)

#8 bigjohnnofish

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 12:41 AM

not a fan of anything blue planet - i would regard them as the car industries JEEP....  

 

lot of worming products only worm certain types of worms.... and theres cammallanus worms which are resistant to a lot of worm treatments....

levamisole is regarded as one of the best treatments for nematodes including cammallanus worm....  

 

if your keeping your water quality pristine then i'd eliminate a lot of possibilities and say its worms for sure but i cant vouch for your water quality so i cant say its 100% worm problem....



#9 Ageofaquariums

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Posted 12 January 2017 - 06:23 AM

Really does not sound like worms to me.

 

Situations like this, its well worth having a x65 clip microscope for your phone. If its an external parasite you will be able to see them easily.






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