Importing L046
#1
Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:05 PM
#2
Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:37 PM
I think you would find they are not allowed to be exported from Brazil due to the natural population being depleted.....that was last i heard.
#3
Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:47 PM
With that being said how do you go about protecting lines and inbreedin..
Only interested because im keen on giving it a go myself there an awsome fish.
#4
Posted 22 July 2010 - 08:55 PM
Im sure there are new bloodlines coming in continuously......have you ever wondered how they got here to begin with considering they are not an allowable import?
The only problem with breeding them is obviously you want to sell the offspring......this can create issues because if the authorities take notice they may make an example of you.
Not trying to be negative but people who have Zebs are very very quiet about it.....one guy had his house broken into because of these fish, another had his house raided.
#5
Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:01 PM
Wow thats cheap Krystal !!
They are big $$$ as Krystal says and slow growers, breeding pairs have been going for $6000 lately over east.
Cheers
Craig
#6
Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:07 PM
not being a sour puss.... just realistic... there are a number of people out there that would be jealous enough to rat others in...
#7
Posted 22 July 2010 - 09:29 PM
Thats pathetic..........
#8
Posted 24 July 2010 - 12:21 AM
#9
Posted 06 August 2010 - 12:44 AM
there are plenty of other fish that genuinely pose a risk to our natural water ways.... (who let the gambusia out?)
#10
Posted 13 August 2010 - 04:55 PM
#11
Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:51 PM
#12
Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:24 PM
#13
Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:28 PM
no doubt there's a black market out there
not that i condone it, but wow what a cash cow that would be breeding them
#14
Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:08 PM
Biodiversity act of 1999 states that any fish and their progeny can be confiscated if the fish are known to have been illegally obtained (smuggled) and any progeny of these fish.... the onus is on the owner to keep records of proof that these fish were imported legally prior to 1982
(6) A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person has in the person’s possession, in the Australian
jurisdiction, a specimen; and
( b ) the specimen is a regulated live specimen that is included in
Part 2 of the list referred to in section 303EB, and the person
is reckless as to that fact; and
© the specimen does not belong to a native species; and
(d) either:
(i) the specimen was unlawfully imported; or
(ii) the specimen was not imported, but any of the
specimens of which it is the progeny was unlawfully
imported.
The Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 can be found here:
Vol 1
http://www.comlaw.go...s99Vol1WD02.pdf
Vol 2
http://www.comlaw.go...s99Vol2WD02.pdf
of which, Volume 2 pertains to the live importation of animals and plants that we are dealing with here - see pages 62 and 106 of Vol 2
Sorry Codfather....... rules is rules.....
and I have heard that more have recently "arrived" ... the new rate starts from $800ea if you buy 10+
I have an import permit to protect...... so I cant touch them.
#15
Posted 13 August 2010 - 11:57 PM
i bet they werent thinking "i better keep my receipt in case some beauracrat 25 years into the future wants to take my fish away from me"
whats stopping someone coming up with a dodgy receipt and saying its legit.... prove its not ???
lets all vote mr.docfish for prime minister... at least then someone will actually know what a fish is !!!!
#16
Posted 14 August 2010 - 05:14 AM
#17
Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:46 AM
Consider that cherry shrimp have been in the country about 5-7 years, yet they are sold redily at every fish shop in Perth,
It seems to me in a majority of cases the authorities are turning a blind eye, however I can see that they would be more interested in a fish worth $1000 rather than a shrimp worth 50 cents.
I can see on one hand the fish shops having to be very careful about what they import buy on the other not being too concerned about what is traded in, is there some kind of gentlemans agreement with the authorities that the hobbiests are not aware of?
Juls
#18
Posted 14 August 2010 - 07:49 PM
#19
Posted 15 August 2010 - 12:54 PM
I would assume that roughly 80-90% of fishkeepers are keeping at least one species that according to the law, is illegal.
Juls
#20
Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:06 PM
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