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#1 Littlefish

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:12 PM

I've got an odd Electric Yellow. Came from same fry but very dark with some yellow only on end of tail and yellow along top of dorsal fin. All else exactly like its siblings, which all look like you'd expect from Electric Yellows - yellow! I've read about a "black" variety in Lake Malawi and also about the Malawi population naturally being dark in colour. Is this likely to be a naturally-occurring throwback? Is this common in aquarium populations? Can anyone tell me more about this?

Any information much appreciated. Thanks...

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 03:21 PM

very interesting, do you have any pics?

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 05:43 PM

Any pics ?

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:49 PM

QUOTE (Littlefish @ Jan 12 2009, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've got an odd Electric Yellow. Came from same fry but very dark with some yellow only on end of tail and yellow along top of dorsal fin. All else exactly like its siblings, which all look like you'd expect from Electric Yellows - yellow! I've read about a "black" variety in Lake Malawi and also about the Malawi population naturally being dark in colour. Is this likely to be a naturally-occurring throwback? Is this common in aquarium populations? Can anyone tell me more about this?

Any information much appreciated. Thanks...

Cheers

hi little fish

i have the same prob i think. mine anr still too young to have full colour but i definatly have one that is darker than the rest.

weird hey

rick

#5 Littlefish

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (Ronny @ Jan 12 2009, 06:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
very interesting, do you have any pics?


OK, stand bye. I'll try and get a good pic


#6 Fish Antics

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 08:45 PM

This has come up a few times if you do a search on the site, especially with Electric yellows. As the fry grow , if it grows, as it may be out competed for food by its siblings, there is a good chance you will find is that it blind. I have had a couple of yellows, Msobo and Moorii with the same " dark" colouring. In each case they proved to be blind and did not develop to well. I have also had a couple with nerve damage which tend to have black pataches where this occurs.

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 08:49 PM

QUOTE (Fish Antics @ Jan 12 2009, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This has come up a few times if you do a search on the site, especially with Electric yellows. As the fry grow , if it grows, as it may be out competed for food by its siblings, there is a good chance you will find is that it blind. I have had a couple of yellows, Msobo and Moorii with the same " dark" colouring. In each case they proved to be blind and did not develop to well. I have also had a couple with nerve damage which tend to have black pataches where this occurs.

Tony


Interesting. This one is about a year old, not blind or damaged in any way as far as I can tell and truly dark for most of it, not patches. Same size as its siblings and just as competitive. I'll get a photo up tomorrow I hope.


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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:45 AM

I remember there was much talk about a thread VERY similar to this a while back have a read here

Blackie, the electric yellow

Unfortunately the fish passed away, but alot of discussion was about why a mutation would occur. An interesting read nonetheless.

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#9 Littlefish

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:25 PM

OK, here are two pics. In the first image he/she (suspect male) swims alongside a juvenile moorii. In the second snap he is in a different tank, hence the different lighting. You can clearly see the E Yellow body shape and some yellow colouring in tail and dorsal fin. You cannot see it well here but the yellow colour continues along the top of the dorsal fin. I like him and wonder if he would breed. No sign of breeding interest so far though.

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#10 Fish Antics

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:42 PM

Would need a close up picture to be sure, however I would say that is not an electric yellow. To me it looks like an Aceii Tanzania. Anychance of some better pictures? Do you keep Aceii? If not it would seem interesting.

Tony

#11 STEVEGREEN

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:49 PM

i with you tony , i cant see any electric yellow in that fish common aceii and first glance , photo sizes are challanging my pupils thou tongue.gif

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 05:03 PM

Definately has more of a pseudotropheus head shape.

#13 Littlefish

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Fish Antics @ Jan 14 2009, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would need a close up picture to be sure, however I would say that is not an electric yellow. To me it looks like an Aceii Tanzania. Anychance of some better pictures? Do you keep Aceii? If not it would seem interesting.

Tony



I don't keep Aceii (as far as I know unsure.gif ). I looked up aceii here http://www.bunaronga..._fish/aceii.jpg and mine looks different. Not blue, or coloured, not with the eyes placed higher in the head. But then... who knows. OK guys I'll try and get a better close-up shot.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (Littlefish @ Jan 14 2009, 07:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't keep Aceii (as far as I know unsure.gif ). I looked up aceii here http://www.bunaronga..._fish/aceii.jpg and mine looks different. Not blue, or coloured, not with the eyes placed higher in the head. But then... who knows. OK guys I'll try and get a better close-up shot.



Try looking up 'pseudotropheus acei tanzania' and click on images. wink.gif

#15 Littlefish

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Posted 15 January 2009 - 10:38 AM

QUOTE (Ronny @ Jan 14 2009, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Try looking up 'pseudotropheus acei tanzania' and click on images. wink.gif


OK, it's a Pseudotropheus aceii Tanzania although there's none of the blue hue that I see in some pictures. Blow me down, how did I get that fish... Mmmm...

Thanks guys for casting your expert eyes over my fish

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