"black Widow" Frontosa
#1
Posted 09 December 2016 - 02:12 PM
Saw these on frontosa junkies facebook site, They are a linebred variety presumably for the aquarium trade.
I personally think that they are terrible compared to the true type frontosas. I would be interested in others views of these fish.
a) Do you like them? and b would you buy them and breed them?
#2
Posted 09 December 2016 - 03:07 PM
They look terrible. I hate when they pick faulty genes like patched out bars and aim to mass produce it.
This to me is as bad as Flowerhorns. its ugly, its inbred and why anyone would want that crap is beyond me.
#3
Posted 09 December 2016 - 03:08 PM
#5
Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:11 PM
That's a BIG no and no. Selectively line breeding a fault like this is for MORONS. You could do this to all fish that have barring, by picking the worst of each batch to breed from. People should be doing the opposite and only selecting the very best to breed from that are true to form and by doing so strengthening the species not weakening it. Breed for our future don't destroy it.
#6
Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:21 PM
I agree - they do nothing at all for me! But one saving grace, at least this doesn't impact their health. I find fish like balloon mollies, parrot fish, etc abhorrent. Why deliberately breed fish ( . . . . or dogs . . . . or cats) with defects which affect their ability to live a decent life?
Edited by humbug, 09 November 2017 - 02:39 PM.
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#8
Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:36 PM
Edited by Hood, 09 December 2016 - 04:39 PM.
#9
Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:46 PM
They are definitely in Australia.
#10
Posted 09 December 2016 - 04:48 PM
In the end our stores and wholesalers gotta make money to stay in business and get the fish we want. So they still gotta supply what others want too.
You can't have a go at them for that.
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#11
Posted 09 December 2016 - 10:04 PM
Edited by Hood, 09 December 2016 - 10:06 PM.
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#12
Posted 10 December 2016 - 07:52 AM
#13
Posted 10 December 2016 - 08:51 AM
I do like the marbled fenestratus over the natural true to type form. Those I would buy and keep and breed. Different fish but same kind of situation. Like Hood is trying to say - if it floats your boat and doesn't impact anyone else, then I see no problem
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#14
Posted 10 December 2016 - 10:15 AM
Edited by Chris Bell, 10 December 2016 - 10:19 AM.
#15
Posted 10 December 2016 - 10:26 AM
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#16
Posted 10 December 2016 - 11:24 AM
The thing is for me is that it does nothing to enhance the original type, in fact it does the complete opposite and down grades it 99% of the time imo. There are always the odd exception but they are few and far between. I also breed parrots and with all the mutation around these days it's hard to get a natural type that breeds true to form. Is this the future we want for our fish? Why take a beautiful fish and breed the colour or marking out of it . It just doesn't make sense and if it doesn't make sense then it must be wrong
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#17
Posted 10 December 2016 - 11:43 AM
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#19
Posted 17 December 2016 - 10:46 PM
If it was a mutation, i think you would have to say the original looks much better. Sure it looks different but that alone does not make it better looking. So no i wouldn't breed from it but it's probably due to hormone and stress.
#20
Posted 18 December 2016 - 03:21 PM
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