Marble Peacocks:- Hybrids
#1
Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:35 PM
Lost 4 fry so far using air stone and feading Micro Worms now the egg sack is gone
Anything else i should do?
Regards cobby
#2
Posted 17 September 2007 - 10:13 PM
I'm not sure if you are aware as Ive also noticed no one has mentioned on this thread (sorry if I'm stating the obvious to you or anyone else) but to my understanding all marbled peacocks are hybrids, usually crossed with BB or OB Maylandia(blotched Zebras) so its no wonder some fry came out too deformed to survive. Those fry may likely turn out to look nothing like the parents, thats if they manage to grow up at all as they are likely to carry alot of genetical defects.
Also being hybrids not sure if they will be able to be entered into the BAP, in fact I think technically your not even allowed to make hybrid posts. If you do get them into the BAP it may inspire me to breed and enter flowerhorn!
#3
Posted 17 September 2007 - 10:31 PM
Idid not relise that Mate i got these from a commite member
Thaught they were legit 8O
thanks for pointing that out
Maybe some body can clear this up?
i have no probs with it but if they are Hybrids then i wont be entering them in to the Bap
Just a learning curve for me mate if they are Hybrids i would have no prob with the commite deliting this post/conversation
As i said before i am just starting out and any advice is more than welcome GOOD OR BAD
Regards Cobby
#4
Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:17 AM
Personally I think it should be open discussion on Hybrids, if this thread gets deleted it will just lead to more people not knowing whats going on.
Its no wonder you and many members are not aware of these fish being hybrid, it does not help when most cichlid clubs around the world take an ignorant approach towards hybrids and dyed fish by banning discussion on them. How are people supposed to learn what to avoid?
If you look closely at your fish although they have nice colours they have deformed squat shaped bodies(especially your female) when compared to average peacocks. Many people focus on colour and dont notice the head and body shapes that are in many cases deformed in hybrids and old inbred genetic lines, many hybrids are sterile and even if you manage to breed them ugly deformed offspring are usually the result, these are just some of the negatives of keeping hybrids and if discussion was allowed people would know how and why they should avoid them.
Cheers
Den
#5
Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:54 AM
MMM not sure what to do now Anybody want some free Marble Peacocks 8O
Cheres Neil
#6
Posted 18 September 2007 - 11:06 AM
The young will make nice feeders, look at the bright side if they are fed of to a nice fish they get to become part of the nice fish.
#7
Posted 18 September 2007 - 12:36 PM
would rather grow them up and give them away
Just as nice as some Goldfish i suppose
Regards Neil
#8
Posted 18 September 2007 - 03:55 PM
#9
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:23 PM
Not sure myself on this i assumed they were just a colour variant?
Craig
#10
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:25 PM
Hoping to get this cleard up soon :cry:
Regards Cobby
#11
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:26 PM
Craig
#12
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:31 PM
Marble Peacocks are regarded as Hybrids as THe OB gene is not found naturally in the Alunocara sp. It is believed as Den has stated that they were bred with OB zebras to introduce the OB pattern. They are therefore not allowed to be sold on the classifieds as part of the PCS T&C and cannot be entered into the BAP or breeding comp. As with all fish it is up to the individual if they want to keep and breed any fish. There are plenty of stunning natural Peacocks around which would be far better to breed IMO.
Tony
#13
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:36 PM
All is crystal clear now Mate
Did not want this to turn into a bum fight
It was just ignorance on my Part :cry:
All good now
Regards Cobby
#14
Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:59 PM
P.S I'm just curious.
And good on ya with the fry and I'm sure most LFS would give you some credit for them.
#15
Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:04 PM
#16
Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:05 PM
Tony
#17
Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:23 PM
#18
Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:24 PM
There are a handful of Symphysodon species, that naturally occur in the wild. Greens, Blue Heckels, browns for example.
Sure Jack Wattley Line bred the aquefasciatus from Lake Tefe' into what we now know as "Green Turquoise" But these have been bred with blues and browns and back to greens, over so many generations to add colour and increase the genetics and to create new "varieties"
Don't forget, you can hybridise within species too with many of your peacocks, different jacobfreibergi or stuartgranti variants for example
#19
Posted 18 September 2007 - 10:40 PM
#20
Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:42 AM
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