A Tip For Queenslanders
#21
Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:00 AM
#22
Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:04 AM
EVERYONE on this forum is entitled to have there opinion.
Whilst i do not agree with the timing or some of what has been said pls try to remain civil to each other when posting.
If this thread degenerates into a slanging match then it will be locked.
Brad
#23
Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:04 AM
http://news.ninemsn....lame-for-floods
LMAO
#24
Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:13 AM
Where people grow up, work the land, see loved ones live and die will always be home and a place of there hearts no matter how how much they go through.
wow, can you and others please explain what Ive said exactly thats offended you? I think some of you are reading things in my posts that simply are not there.
I cant, you guys are keeping me too busy here.
Edited by Cawdor, 13 January 2011 - 11:19 AM.
#25
Posted 13 January 2011 - 11:19 AM
For once it would be great to see a post by Den saying "Wow, have you seen the good work that is being undertaken in the face of adversity" rather than state that these people affected should move to higher ground.
Den in 2 years I have seen you inflame a number of threads and start an amazing amount of pointless drivle, one can only assume that you get off on the attention, as such I am sadly an enabler of your deficiency, I can only hope that you will reap the seeds of you opinion at some point.
Den maybe being a narsocist does not fully explain this continued lack of moral or ethical judgement but Sociopath seems to.
so·ci·o·path
–noun Psychiatry .
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
nar·cis·sism
–noun
1. inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity.
2. Psychoanalysis . erotic gratification derived from admiration of one's own physical or mental attributes, being a normal condition at the infantile level of personality development
#26
Posted 13 January 2011 - 12:12 PM
#27
Posted 13 January 2011 - 01:01 PM
I see the fishings going well
#28
Posted 13 January 2011 - 01:16 PM
#29
Posted 13 January 2011 - 01:58 PM
Plenty of them have been flooded many times.....
Trouble is if you design houses for flood and bush fires and cyclones and earthquakes.....they would be unaffordable
And as happens now....the next person who buys them doesn't understand and adds something that destroys the original concept
Drift restaurant sank because they added a cool room to the side of he building that tied it to the riverbank.....destroying the original concept
It's a steel barge designed to float in a flood it was built in a shipyard and floated into place so it does float!!!
And the bit that did float away wasn't part of the original design!
You can't legislate against people taking a short cuts to save a buck
On a Good note....a well know lfs fishchicks (new sponsor on this forum)was without power and the owner Jodi was caught at her home
A group of regulars have taken charge done water changes and organized a generator....I wasn't involved....couldn't get there if I'd known anyway....but it makes me proud to be a Queenslander!!
Don't worry about us Queenslanders......what doesn't kill you makes you stronger....we'll sort it out!!!
Edited by Rod, 13 January 2011 - 02:06 PM.
#30
Posted 13 January 2011 - 02:02 PM
After consideration, I can see that I have spoken out too quickly, society will begin to judge and ask the same questions Im asking here in about a week or two time, then in 3-6 months time the comedians will move in and make this terrible and "avoidable" disaster part of their standup material mocking all the stupidy and you will see people on TV go from making insincere "heart felt condolences" to cracking jokes to which most of you will laugh, people are crazy.
Ive not said dont help these people, Im just saying if your gonna spend our tax money dont waste it on rebuilding in flood areas again, use money to relocate people or improve preventative infrastructure, anyway nice talking with ya's all again.
Edited by Den, 13 January 2011 - 02:06 PM.
#31
Posted 13 January 2011 - 02:08 PM
#32
Posted 13 January 2011 - 02:41 PM
LAWDOG, can you please explain this comment? you see me as a bad guy but I dont recall ever wishing harm on anyone. Are you implying that you wish harm to befall me? please explain exactly what for?
BTW it is refreshing to see the good nature of Australians, our news is more focused on our people, where I noticed in the American press on their oil disaster all they talked about was the financial costs, not much spoken for the many lives lost.
Edited by Den, 13 January 2011 - 02:51 PM.
#33
Posted 13 January 2011 - 03:22 PM
Lets disect the post:
"A Tip for Queenslanders" - Now I might be looking at this all wrong, but the last thing the anyone in Queensland needs right now is tips from a guy looking at his keyboard in Western Australia, explaining what they should be doing.
"its just Ive noticed you people keep rebuilding in those flood prone areas, its not a brave thing to do, its sounds plain stupid." - Now to make a statement like that implies that if a person tries to rebuild their life where the insurance companies will allow, that being on the land they currently hold title to, then they are not brave but stupid.
" its seems many, maybe even most of the people affected by the flood built or bought properties in known flood areas, why should we spend want our tax dollars on a stupid state Govenment that allows people to build in known floodways" - How is this helpful, people buy where they are able to buy, Tax payers dollars are better spent here than many other current areas of spending.
Den, as stated if you were a sociopath, which is to say that you seem to lack a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience, it would explain this and a number of other posts because you seem prone to making a comment without respect of what the wider audience may feel about an issue and then seem quite hurt when people respond negatively to your intial ponderings. Wether you are a sociopath is of course between yourself and your chosen health care professional.
Reap the seeds you sow - this is an intersting comment as it opens the door for a wide range of implications, you have chosen to take it that I would wish you harm, quite to the contrary I only hope that you will be disappointed at some future time by the inconsiderate ramblings of another. So maybe I am a sociopath as I did not take into consideration what you might feel about this comment or maybe that just make me inconsiderate.
I suppose all that I am saying Den is that I for one as a single member of this community wish that you would take the time to think through your statements and try to play devil's advocate upon yourself and see how your statements could be received in the wider community. Maybe you don't get a buzz out of having a post go viral, or maybe it saddens you that your post seems to misconstrued more than some others I don't know but in many things timing is everything and yours was bad.
#34
Posted 13 January 2011 - 03:43 PM
Much like tornado ally in the states ...every year the houses get blown away and every year people will rebuild there.
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I don't think these are comparable. It's neither practical nor sensible to avoid building on an area the size of Canada.
A tornado is a frightening thing and deadly to encounter, but several trashed houses/businesses every year is nothing compared to the benefit gained from tens of millions of people living there. The burden on people giving aid to those affected is negligible, and the loss of life while regrettable is effectively self-inflicted. Driving a car is a much worse risk to take.
On the other hand I see no problem with a pro-active government zoning all repeat-flooding land as park, bush, sporting, whatever usage only.
And since our government (which is ourselves, let's be blunt) can't think far enough ahead to do this, then it comes down to individuals to be sensible enough to reject living in a hole waiting to fill with water.
It was nice to see our most recent ex prime minister getting stuck in helping people out in his neighbourhood. It was also worth noting that he said something like "Oh, don't worry about my house, if I go under so does about everyone else".
At the very least such land should be zoned and clearly labelled as "20-year flood-prone" and to anyone wanting to live there it should be made glaringly plain that it's a temporary arrangement and you will probably get insufficient notice of a flood to get your gear to safety. "100-year flood-prone" such as much of what is flooded today might be a different category. Like tornado alley, that's too much land to simply not use.
Den might not have buttered up his words in order to sound PC, but he's fundamentally absolutely correct: We're bog stupid to keep building on regularly-flooded land.
If rich politicians who live on high ground won't make the policies for us, let's vote in politicians who will.
#35
Posted 13 January 2011 - 03:44 PM
by your own standards you would have brought such things on yourself by choosing to live where you do .
these people have lost there lives due to natural disaster and that can strike no matter where you live...
grow a brain
#36
Posted 13 January 2011 - 03:44 PM
Tony
#37
Posted 13 January 2011 - 03:48 PM
#38
Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:27 PM
Scottyhottoon, let me put your "disturbingly twisted" metaphore into a real comparison, if Garden island and the neighbouring area I live in was repeatedly bombed in the past and we who survived continued rebuilding even knowing and being warned that another bombing is definitely coming I guess that would what make sense to you too? if your gonna tell people to grow brains I suggest that you get some of the same fertiliser...
Lawdog, I dont want to write an essay exposing the weaknesses in your arguement, the average reader can work that out, Id rather focus on what I think is the real reason you and a few other people on here resent me for which is the previous dog discussions. I have friends on here who own dogs and have read my posts, I wonder if its just a coincidence that they are all responsible dog keepers and therefore do not get offended by my dog posts?
theonetruepath, neatkit, Rod, Dave, thanks, its nice to listen to a few thinking people out there, pity a rational discussion is not really possible on this website any more.
Edited by Den, 13 January 2011 - 09:29 PM.
#39
Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:31 PM
#40
Posted 13 January 2011 - 09:39 PM
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