Tucunare

hi guys
firstly i think you all know where i stand on the hybrid issue, if not then so be it.
secondly most of you know i spen over 80hrs a week looking after fish tanks of all sorts.
what ive noticed.
firstly i have looked after a cichlid tank in midland now for about a year (cheers Az), this tank is in a commercial location, and the management of this business have bought all there pure bred fish from midland pet and aquarium. about 6 months ago about 100 fry appeared in the tank, these looked to be the babies of the two adult moori that were in the tank as the months went on they still looked like moori, little silver fish with a slight blue shimmer and two dots on there bodies. these babies are all around 8-10cm now and up untill a month ago youd swear black and blue they were pure strain moori. turns out there red empress x moori, nice little blue dolphin heads with a yellow/red body and heaps of markings on there fins.
heres what im trying to get at if these people had of decided to trade these fish back to midland or though myself a month after they were born, in everyones honest opinion they would have been labled moori and probably would have remained that way for 4 months after the fact or up untill now that the dominant ones are showing colour.
theres alot of difference of opinion on hybrids but i think we as the hobbiests are the minority when it comes to this.
in the last year ive dealt with 5 tanks that have had african hybrids in them all of which obivously have no knowledge of cichlids (hense why im there in the first place), 4 of these clients have sold fish back to shops they have bought them from, probably under the name of yellow stripey fish and got a few bucks each for them.
now lets assume that each of the 4 customers ive dealt with have sold 40 fish each (hybrids) and 40 of those died that still leaves 120 hybrids that have gone out into the perth area that are probably in 30 -40 different tanks, breeding within there hybrid sp and with other true strains. taken that into account thats only the people i deal with so how many more people do the same????? your guess is as good as mine.
i think the argument between hobbiests about keeping the strains pure is kind of a weak one that seems irrelevant when you consider the ammount of fish that are beeing traded around by the basic novis, intermediate fish keeper that doesnt care whats what, the proffessional that gets a kick out of something new and to all the others that arent involved in forums and clubs like this.
dont get me wrong here though i think its great that theres people passionate about trying to keep strains pure and i congratulate you on taking that view, but i think it a battle that cant be won from what ive seen from regular fish tanks outside of the hobby.
getting back to what i said up the top aswell there may also be some shops totally against selling hybrids that actually sell them through false/ uneducated identification of species ( like the Moori X's).
i guess more than anything its worth thinking about, do the 7 or 8 people who get involved in the hybrid arguments really matter in the grand ol scheme of things?, is the issue bigger than alot of you realise?, has it already gone to far?, how many people that dont speak up on here really care about what the end result of there fish breeding are?,
again it seems as hobbiest we want to kill each other over this issue, and i bet alot of people still think its contained within the hobby. consider that theres only about 12 decent shops in the metro area yet over 250 other outlets that sell fish, plus internet and printed media, theres alot of things going on out there that no one can controll
hope that kinda makes sence - tryin to watch the soccer and type at the same time
steve

hey Guys
Im opening an aquarium shop in Port Kennedy
Currently we are in the stage of a total refit and overhaul of the old warnbro aquarium shop.
plans are to stock all the major high end brands such as hikari, NLS, aqua medic, seachem, ehime etc etc as well as the cheaper options at a price that will rival guppys .
we will be setting up an online store within the first few months for mail orders or as a basic price guide but again i plan on being competitive against all the existing online shops.
we will be stocking everything for the complete novice right up to the higher end professional stuff like denitrate units, Co2 units, calcium reactors etc.
we will also be carrying tropicals, marines, plants, pond plants/fish, marines, corals and inverts.
RO water in containers as well as salt water will be available.

we are situated behind soils aint soils next to jays glass in Port kennedy, doors are closed at the moment but hoping to have a huge opening with serious discounts in about a month.
ill definitely keep everyone up to speed on pricing and opening dates.

ill also be looking for either 1 full time manager, or 2 permanent part timers to split management rolls, more than anything you'll need to be outgoing and friendly (solid retail and personal skills), a broad knowledge on marines and fresh is an advantage. send me resumes to stumbleau@westnet.com.au and ill have a look at them and interviews will follow in the coming weeks.
cheers all and i hope that i can bring something to the southerners that been missing down here for long time
steve

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hi guys
ive got a largish bird cage for sale
blue hammertone finish, solid steel construction, casters, section uptop with seed tray for a bird perch, 180 degree rotating feed bowls, solid gate style latch, would be a comfy fit for galah / correla sized bird, comes with a large hollow log inside ( breed your catties in it if you want to take it out), good condition.
rough size 1200 across the front 1600 high, 700 wide looking for $80 - fully assembled

cheers
steve

Hi guys
If i have a group called "PCS" and i want to send an email to everyone on the list, how can i make it so that the list isnt visible to everyone in the group????

basically now if i send a group email to "PCS" everyone can see who got it and can acctually contact anyone on that list if the wish, i want to hide all the names so no one but me knows whosrecieving the email?

can i do it on incredimail or is there an easier way to send it out from a GMail or hotmail account where i can hide everybodys details in the group from one another???

cheers
steve