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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:14 PM
theres been a fair bit in the press lately about her innocence and that a corrupt copper has been found guilty on drugs charges and the alleged corrupt baggage handlers at the airports..
to make things interesting indonesia has requested australia to get schapels passport renewed and in order... hmmm maybe a pending release ???
Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:50 PM
Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:23 PM
From my outside perspective it seems her whole family are embroiled in drugs and things, so I can see how she got into trouble more than another holiday maker in that area.
I have no idea of her innocense but that govt have been discounting her sentence about 9 months every year. I think she got about 17-25 years for the drugs, she's been good, so she will get out a little eariler cos of that. She's been in prison for 10 years so that equals to her being released any moment now (working out the discounts every year). Thus passports are being sorted, maybe she will spend some time in Aussie Jail?
It's going to be very interesting to watch on the news. Also be nice to see her talk about it, if she is willing.
She has been looking like she's all spaced-out and catatonic but I think this is all part of show and she will be right-as-reign when released.
Just a wrong place, wrong time and the possibility of pissing people off. I would not be surprised if there are bribes involved that were not paid.
I think I will always try to steer clear from countries that have bribery invloved in all parts of life, govt.
Edited by MrLeifBeaver, 24 January 2014 - 03:24 PM.
Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:47 PM
The fact that she brought the dope in to bali and not out has always made me suss I would have thought you would try to bring it out being as it is
probably quite cheap and make a small profit selling in aus, And less risk too, just a slap on the wrist in aus.
Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:55 PM
1) I should first say I think it's ridiculous that anyone should get 20 years for pot, or any drug for that matter.
2) Corby has been the darling of the womens' magazines since she was caught. Her family has profited handsomely from her crime, and when she gets out she stands to make a huge pile of cash selling interviews and writing her life story. This could not happen in Australia.
3) Corby has received many discounts on her sentence and been allowed out of prison on occasion to have her nails done so she cheers up etc. A number of Australian prime ministers have lobbied Indonesia on her behalf, FFS.
4) Other drug smugglers in Bali prisons aren't as photogenic, or don't have as good a PR agent so all they get is to sit in the corner and chew on a bone.
Posted 24 January 2014 - 04:19 PM
Edited by malawiman85, 24 January 2014 - 04:20 PM.
Posted 24 January 2014 - 04:27 PM
I dont get why you would smuggle weed into bali? Thats gotta be bad business, right.
Doesnt make sense does it!!!
Posted 24 January 2014 - 04:45 PM
Apparently it does. Something about quality I believe.
should have copped the death penalty
i got no time for druggies. they are a drain on society
pfft. Where is the harm to justify that?
And alcohol? Can't see a lot of societal harm coming from pot next to alcohol... Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of stoners, but what you advocate is like giving the death penalty to people who like a beer after work ( like certain other countries full of zealots might do).
Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:02 PM
i disagree i have seen first hand what drugs do and the crap they put in them. most of it isnt even a food source. drain cleaner and lithium from batteries are common ingredients and i have no time for people who deal with the junk.
pot while a natural and useful plant it does do damage and is addictive, i also have had mates with brain disorders from it. but then again alcoholism is also a blight in our society. i am sick of seeing aussies play up and act superior when outside the country, in some areas they are as hated as much as americans so dont forget she wasnt in australia or our society at the time. she would be more believable if her family wasnt already dealing. wouldnt be suprised if someone set her up because of it.
i dont care if you have a joint or join me for a beer, but dont expect others to pay or pick up the pieces if things go pear shaped
Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:15 PM
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:00 PM
Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:24 PM
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Dont get me wrong, I hate the big time dealers and I HATE hard drugs, and yes before you say "Pot leads to hard drugs"
No not in all cases, I was into pot a lot when I was 16-21 and it NEVER tempted me to try other stuff even though it was offered many times.
I dont smoke now days, but I do think pot is so much better than the drink., I drink because its socially acceptable but I also know my limits as I did with pot.
Unfortunately some don't 
Do I think Corby is innocent? I did when I read the book, but when her family member's kept being caught with pot etc It made me think maybe they were trying to smuggle it in. 4kgs is a SHITLOAD!! WAY more than a few ppl can smoke in a few days.
I guess we'll never know the real truth... I think the sister is very much involved!
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:26 PM
I wish she got the death penalty so I wouldn't have to hear about her and her ongoing "dramas". It's nice to see people and their families profiting from crime.
Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:51 PM
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH Blackmans Bay beach gets cold during the Winter, as does Wedge at South Arm when we use to surf.. But I also think they were just excuses hahah
It did help with being cold though...
Posted 25 January 2014 - 02:14 AM
im not sure what the statistics are and if they'd be a true representation of exactly how many people do smoke/consume marijuana... but in my lifetime i was the odd one out more times than not for not smoking weed... but i do remember eating some wicked cake and cookies when i was a young sprog!!! and yeah getting the munchies real bad and eating more cake and cookies... omg its a vicious circle... but i had a great time and had more laughs than the comedy company and didnt want to punch or kill anybody... more than i can say about alcohol.... and manufactured drugs....
anyway back on schapelle.... it is alleged that baggage handlers in melbourne and sydney quite often used other peoples luggage to transfer dope (and prob other drugs too) to and fro from melbourne and sydney... schapelle travelled between these two airports before going to bali... at the receivers end the baggage handler got spooked and didnt remove the dope from schapelles bag/boogie board.... and hence she still had it when she got to bali... her reactions to me were pretty much that of total surprise and disbelief they had found dope in her bag.... i think it was just coincidence that her/sister and possibly whole family did/dealt dope in australia.... like i said before its not uncommon for people to be a dope smoker... my copper mate said to me its about 1 in every 3 houses has a dope smoker... and up to 2 in every 3 houses in some areas...and streets in some suburbs 3 outa 3 houses...
i do like the deaths related to marijuana = big fat zero.... certainly makes a statement...
Posted 25 January 2014 - 02:58 AM
God. All those anti-drugs people... I'm amazed at the blind prejudice and sheer venom. The urge to get good and wasted has been with us for tens of thousands of years at the very least. It's not going away anytime soon, and this wave of disapproval will come and go.
Sucking back beers all weekend. Smoking cigarettes or vaping. Doing bongs. Taking anti-depressants because life is sad and meaningless and we need to remain productive economic units. etc etc.
I always like the "drugs screwed up my/friend/kid/wife's life". No they didn't. They screwed up their life. drugs were the vehicle is all. There always has to be something to blame apart from the one who is to blame.To extend the metaphor, drugs can take you to work, or on a long country drive or you can keep the pedal to the floor for thrills and risk ending up on a lamppost. Can't blame the car.
As to dealers, if one is not opposed to people taking drugs, then how can one be opposed to someone supplying them? Set aside adulteration/ leg breaking etc. That is just people being bad and doing unconscionable things. We don't hang people that work in pubs do we? If they started adding bleach to the beer, we wouldn't say publicans are bad or all beer is poison; just that that was a bad pub/beer.
Bear in mind there are countries like Portugal who have legalised pretty well everything and has their society fallen apart? Nopes.
I think there is an argument for not operating machinery or the like when on certain drugs/medications, but what of it? That's safety is all and it depends on how far you want to take it. I bet Gillard made some decisions on the SSRI's or beta blockers (or whatever she was on that gave her such a flat affect) that she would not have made when not on them. I think the abnegation of responsibility when under the influence is bs. I don't accept the "I was wasted" argument.
TL;DR: If you do bad things you should get in trouble. If you do bad things on drugs, you should still get in trouble. If you do drugs and do not do bad things, then it's noone's business IMHO.
As to Ms. Corby, I believe she has been in there long enough, but I believe that of her cellmates too. I do not think we will ever know for sure if she did it or not. I think she did, but what do I really know?
Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:22 AM
i find your comment inconsiderate, uninformed and childish.
there is obviously no words that will get through to you so i recommend going to a rehab site, hospital emergency centre or speaking to a psychologist that has to attempt to repair the damage done by such a blase approach to a serious problem
Posted 25 January 2014 - 03:47 AM
i find your comment inconsiderate, uninformed and childish.
Right back at ya!
AH yes, we all have our stories to tell; our own point of view, our personal crosses to bear.
Serious problem....We have been doing the prohibition thing for near on a century, and a lot of good it has done. How much effect do you think it's had?
i recommend going to a rehab site, hospital emergency centre or speaking to a psychologist that has to attempt to repair the damage done by such a blase approach to a serious problem
Yeah, yeah. Go for the bad end of town. Play the emotional card of "you haven't seen what I've seen". I bet I have, though.
For every guy that is in rehab there are 20 who dabble occasionally or have the odd joint or drink the odd beer and somehow resist the urge to drink themselves into cirrhosis or hock all their mum's jewellery for another couple of points of Lou Reed. Yes, they smoke the odd cigarette or go shrooming and the world doesn't end. Some people do drugs and find a better understanding of the world and it's actually helpful in their lives.
If people are going to come apart, they will find a tool to help them do it, be it a gambling addiction or alcoholism.
It's like the terrorism argument. The world is a much safer place than Today Tonight tells you. People have bad thoughts about Americans, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them will fly an airliner into a tall building.
There is no need to catastrophise the whole spectrum with "Drugs are bad"
Mmmmkay?
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