First of all big shout out to shep for the plecos and big johno and watto for advise
So I decided to try my first L number and was advise to do 397s so I brought 10 and swamped a few around with a mate to change e bloodline around
I had them in the tank for around 2 weeks all males had a cave each waiting for the female to take intrest they were all at the edge of the caves with there tail out
So I thought i would do a massive water change to help them spawn during the water change one of the males decided he didn't want to clean his eggs no more and gave them to me haha
So after advise I made my first tumbler quickly and found around 8-10 eggs couple were not fertilised
This was there first spawn ever
Once the eggs hit wriggler stage I had 6 of them, but once they hit free swimming only had 4 I was so happy that I even saved 4 and I know next time what to do and not to do
Thanks for listening .