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[johnnie7au]

My friend has just built a koi pond...

I helped him with his filtration system .. and it really does look noce!

Can anyone suggest nice cold water catfish for a koi pond?

Any suggestions, and where he can get them.

Inexpensive would be nice. But nice looking is better!

Inexpensive and good looking .. well that would be great!

8)

[skittles]

i heard from someone on the pcs that the tandanus catfish was once found in a petshop with goldfish it is a cheap catty but i like them

[johnnie7au]

I do too, But I think that they got a nasty stinger spike like a cobbler or something?

[studzy6]

Tandanus Catfish can adapt to Coldwater, but they grow very large, I have seen one 60cm, and they still grow bigger!

And yes, a mate of mine was stung by his Tandanus which made the wound in his finger go white. I don't think its that poisonous because he didn't need any medical treatment, but it could depend on how the catfish gets you I guess.

And they are cheap and hardy, active fish.

[benckie]

i have read that pleco,s can live in cold water ive heard people have used them for cleaning horse water tanks and rain water tanks and they can live in extrem changes of temp and salt i have even proven this my self. i once spent a hole right reading what americans have done to there pleco,s very intresting very hardy fish

[alec]

Tandanus Catfish can adapt to Coldwater, but they grow very large, I have seen one 60cm, and they still grow bigger!

i agree i have seen some get over that length,
about 90cm 8O

[Alan_cab]

And I have seen Koi in Japan big enough to suck in a whole slice of bred.

Rainbow whales yet

Alan

[Cicolid]

Hi Johnnie.

A guy I was talking to runs a fish farm, Barramundi, Trout etc.

He told me that some people empty their swimming pool for winter, fill it with fresh water and put a heap of Trout in it.
As they are from Europe they can withstand the cold temp's.

Just before summer they catch them a put them in the freezer, and convert the pool back to being a pool.

Just a thought .

If you want any more info', please contact me.

Cheers
Col

[Alan_cab]

Hmmmm, a bit more to growing trout than dumping them in the pool for winter.

Even a swimming pool filter system is not good enough to grow fish for that sort of thing. Don't get conned !!!

I am currently involved in a 12 tonne closed recirculation system entering it's second year of growth recording at a research and education facility. Not looking flash :cry:

Alan

[Krystal]

Tandanus dont release a poison, they release a toxin. its not dangerous but it bloody hurts, if you get spiked just run your finger under hot water it stops the pain for a while.

Tandanus will get around a foot and a half give or take in a pond or aquarium, Aquotix has coldwater tandanus for $12.95 ea at around 5 cm.

[Peckoltia]

Tandanus dont release a poison, they release a toxin. its not dangerous but it bloody hurts, if you get spiked just run your finger under hot water it stops the pain for a while.

Tandanus will get around a foot and a half give or take in a pond or aquarium, Aquotix has coldwater tandanus for $12.95 ea at around 5 cm.

Obviously never been pricked by a tandanus if you think a bit of hot tap water is going to stop the pain. VERY painful, talking from experience. I have to say that sting ray barbs hurt more though. As do bullrout spines.

[Krystal]

Actually i have been spiked but as i said, it bloody hurts. Eeltails also hurt like hell and YES if you run hot water over the spike it does subdue(more appropriate word) the pain for a while msking it more like a tingle than a sharp stining pain, it has to be as hot as you can withstand it.

This is getting off topic so im not about to start arguing over this, if you dont like running hot water over your finger then you'll have to put up with the pain, but hey what would i know? :wink:

[johnnie7au]

I think I would like to try this fish at home ..

Anyone got a few babies to spare?

[johnnie7au]

[monobono]

I think I would like to try this fish at home ..

Anyone got a few babies to spare?

To my Knowledge, they are no longer being sent into WA

So it might be difficult to find "babies"

[cobby]

Cicolid wrote

A guy I was talking to runs a fish farm, Barramundi, Trout etc.

He told me that some people empty their swimming pool for winter, fill it with fresh water and put a heap of Trout in it.
Sounds intresting anymore info Mate

Regards Cobby

[Mr_docfish]

Tandanus dont release a poison, they release a toxin. its not dangerous but it bloody hurts, if you get spiked just run your finger under hot water it stops the pain for a while.

Obviously never been pricked by a tandanus if you think a bit of hot tap water is going to stop the pain. VERY painful, talking from experience. I have to say that sting ray barbs hurt more though. As do bullrout spines.

I have worked at AQWA (at the time it was Underwater World) and the agreed treatment for any catfish or rockfish (bullrout) 'Spike' was the use of hot water.
The hot water de-natures the protein that makes up the toxin in their spikes and therefore lessens the effect of the pain faster.
Krissytool - you are right.
Pekoltia - don't listen to us....only if you are a massacist.

PS I have been spiked by numerous catfish varieties and the worst fish I got spiked by was a Lionfish (rockfish family) so I understand and enjoy your pain with you.

PPS
How hot must the hot water be?
As rule of thumb: Be a man! - the hot water should hurt more than the pain of the spike.

Mr_docfish

[johnnie7au]

Anyone got a few freebie Tananus for me to try ...

I wanna get spiked... (not really!)

I couldn't take them to school .. in case anyone is allergric ..

However I am game to have a go keeping a couple of babies at home!

Johnnie