Starting A New Marine Tank
#1
Posted 11 April 2009 - 10:41 PM
Having never had a marine tank before I need some pointers to set me off
Firstly, is a 3 foot (150 litre) tank big enough? If so could she have more than just a couple of clown fish in there - she'd be looking for small, brightly coloured fish I guess.
The tank is still set up as a fully cycled freshwater tank with 700 lph canister. I assume I need to completely strip it down, clean the filter and start again? I was told some time ago that you don't need filters on a marine setup as the live rock does this - is this true?
Any suggestions on where to start gratefully received
Thanks,
#2
Posted 11 April 2009 - 10:49 PM
sorry about little info but i don't know much about marine,
cheers, tom
#3
Posted 12 April 2009 - 08:27 AM
than why the hell would you bother answering ?!?!?!?!
#4
Posted 12 April 2009 - 08:33 AM
3 foot would be enough for a marine tank, you may just have to watch your levels, as there going to flucuate very quickly in the small amount of water.
A couple of clownfish would easy fit in there, you would also be able to add a few more fish, mayby some small gobys or damsels, nice colours and fairly hardy.
Absolutly
yes, you can run a marine tank with out a canister filter, however you than want alot of live rock and water movement. i am assuming your not planning on going with corals? than in your sitution with it being a first marine tank i would use the canister filter, it would be more than fine for a fish only tank.
#5
Posted 12 April 2009 - 01:36 PM
I was wondering that
A couple of clownfish would easy fit in there, you would also be able to add a few more fish, mayby some small gobys or damsels, nice colours and fairly hardy.
yes, you can run a marine tank with out a canister filter, however you than want alot of live rock and water movement. i am assuming your not planning on going with corals? than in your sitution with it being a first marine tank i would use the canister filter, it would be more than fine for a fish only tank.
Thanks for this. I think I will strip down the tank and clean out the filter as you suggest and start again.
Regards,
#6
Posted 29 April 2009 - 03:41 PM
But obviously you'll have to get the live rock and get the tank cycling for atleast a few weeks before adding any livestock
(heater too if you dont have one already)
Best place for information
http://www.masa.asn....Beginners_Guide
#7
Posted 29 April 2009 - 04:07 PM
#8
Posted 29 April 2009 - 09:11 PM
#9
Posted 09 May 2009 - 08:28 AM
#10
Posted 09 May 2009 - 09:28 AM
#11
Posted 09 May 2009 - 11:38 AM
#12
Posted 09 May 2009 - 07:56 PM
I'm sorry but this comment bugged me,
Clown fish do not care one way or another if they have an anemone, please tell me how clown fish benefit from one?
Not having one is not going to make them sick nor is it going make them die.
A number of clown fish available for sale are captive breed now a days anyway hence they have never seen anemones etc and many clown fish don't even know what to do when they do see one for the first time.
Your clownfish will be much better off without an anemone than with an anemone with poor lighting which isnt going to survive.
#13
Posted 09 May 2009 - 09:05 PM
Clown fish do not care one way or another if they have an anemone, please tell me how clown fish benefit from one?
Not having one is not going to make them sick nor is it going make them die.
A number of clown fish available for sale are captive breed now a days anyway hence they have never seen anemones etc and many clown fish don't even know what to do when they do see one for the first time.
Your clownfish will be much better off without an anemone than with an anemone with poor lighting which isnt going to survive.
i agree
most clown fish even breed without an anemone.
#14
Posted 14 May 2009 - 08:54 AM
Not necessarily true, my two also swim up for a bit of brine shrimp at feeding time.
One of my tanks is 110L, biggest problem I have to watch for is salinity. With the small volume of water the evaporation as a % of the tank can be quite big and just about every 2nd day I am topping up.
#15
Posted 19 June 2009 - 11:51 PM
Daz
#16
Posted 20 June 2009 - 07:28 PM
That could have been worded better as he is obviously only trying to help, but yes on the same note, bad advice is bad.
#17
Posted 21 June 2009 - 11:49 AM
sure clown fish can do with out an anemonie but hey what if he decided to put a trigger or cod or something in with his clowns - atleast they have a safe haven in the anemonie, i think theres a good reason there called anemonie fish so if you can do both id say go for it - not recomending you put clowns with preds but hey ive seen worse.
Cannisters in my opinion have no place in a marine tank, as was stated above these turn into nitrate factories and majore collection points for detrites - kinda like a huge dead spot in your tank which is what you want to avoid- thats the whole point of powerheads, to avoid deadspots- youd be better off getting a decent skimmer and getting rid of the nasties before they turn to nitrates.
as paddy said keep an eye on your salinity, best thing to do is to mark your tank and keep the water at that level all the time, daily check and ro top up will keep that sorted or install an osmolator to do it for you.
live rock+ good water movement +decent skimmer+ strong lighting= a pretty successful marine tank - in a nut shell
#18
Posted 21 June 2009 - 12:21 PM
When did this tank change from a tank with a few simple clowns to a predetor tank?
Sure clownfish can live both with and without an anemone, i would recomend without in this instance, and again i am assuming that this tank only has basic light (t8's) which an anemone will not be happy under, even with regular feeding.
liverock + cannister + couple of clowns = simple, cheap and easy marine tank in a basic nutshell
#19
Posted 21 June 2009 - 02:32 PM
#20
Posted 21 June 2009 - 02:57 PM
Nitrates will not harm the fish, nitrates will not harm the liverock, hell theres even a number of corals that like and use nitrates (morphs, clams etc.) so why spend so much money and time removing something when it truly dosent matter if it is there in the first place?
are you honestly going to try and tell me steve that not a single one of your marine aquariums, or marine aquariums you deal with have nitrates? becouse if you are, im sorry but i won't belive you.
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