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[Jezza]

hey all
well, i'm nearly ready to start filling my 6x2x2 so now am looking to get some eco complete
i've heard that it's in short supply lately - has anyone seen which shops have some?
And what is the best price people have seen?
i'm looking at getting around 8, maybe 10 bags.
Send me a pm with location and price if it's not allowed publicly :?:

if the sponsers want to give me a price, that would be muchly appreciated.

Cheers
Jeremy

[Leevers]

funny that you bring this up.

Perth Aquarium & Display have this in stock. Although its about $56 for a 20kg bag.. not cheap at all.

with a tank your size, your looking at approx 5-6bags.


I have 2 bags on order through a friend, so if you don't happen to buy some anytime soon, then i'll let you know how it goes.

Regards
Chris

[Jezza]

i thought they were 9kg bags? - (thats why i was thinking 10)
do they come in a few sizes?
$56 for 20kg isnt too bad then - i've seen them for $49 for 9kg

[keleherr]

use gravel to build up the profile mix in some eco with it and have the top inch as eco will save you a bunch of money
are you sure there 20kg?they look alot smaller hahah

[Leevers]

sorry, my mistake... 9kg is the bag im thinking. i got confused.

go into their shop and look at their cichlid display tank. It has eco-complete in it and its AMAZING!

The rich black substrate brings the colours of the fish and limestone rock out better than anything i have seen. Apparently it buffers water as good if not better than lime sand

[keleherr]

eco dosent buffer the water in any way?? are u sure u aint thinking of onyx sand?
but it does bring out the colours of fish and plants like theres no tomorrow

[Donna]

Hi Everyone,

Below is the product description:

No rinsing - packed in Liquid Amazon buffered "Black Water" solution for immediate organic water conditioning. Contains all mineral nutrients needed for luxuriant aquatic plant growth. Includes live Heterotrophic bacteria to rapidly convert fish waste into natural food for your plants. The perfect substrate for your planted aquarium!

It can really help to cycle your tank quickly as it has bacteria built in.

I bought some, from Aquatic Rocks, it is a web based company in Bassendean. You can't pick up unfortunately.

They only charged $6.50 for delivery, but I can't think how much it was a bag, I think around $48.00 but who would know?

Regards,

Donna

[sydad]

It can really help to cycle your tank quickly as it has bacteria built in.

Bacteria can be added/ included, but "built in". Nooo!

Syd.

[Leevers]

Donna this is false advertising. Perth Aquarium & Display have crossed this out on all their product to save confusion. it has been mis-represented. The bacteria can only be added, but can't be kept alive in a bag
hence why when working with bio-filters you are told not to leave them disconnect for long as the bacteria will die.

Regards
Chris

[Terry]

$40 per 9kg bag at Midland Aquarium 92744737

Cheers Terry

[Donna]

Oh that's right guys. Go and spoil all my bacterial illusions (and my fifty bucks a bag purchase)

I'm supposing what the soil can do is create the conditions that are condusive to bacteria growth so it will readily multiply once it appears

I have become strangely interested in bacteria They say it is live Heterotrophic bacteria. I know what trophic means, and a good guess at hetero. I suspect it means anaerobic or aerobic depending on conditions. It can be both. Clever bacteria.

I'm off to find out more.


Thanks,

Donna

[Donna]

http://www.wallaquar...com/cycling.htm

Little bit more at the above site. It seems that the heterotrophic bacteria isn't that great as a nitrifier at all

I am over it now

[Jezza]

$40 per 9kg bag at Midland Aquarium 92744737

Cheers Terry

got some today - thanks terry
nice looking shop too - was the first time i was there

[sydad]

Little bit more at the above site. It seems that the heterotrophic bacteria isn't that great as a nitrifier at all

Hello Donna,

Had a brief look at the site you showed. Very brief, because although the information is correct in part, it is, from an aquarists viewpoint largely meaningless. Nitrosomonas and Nitrobacters are notoriously sensitive to the eutrophic (read polluted) conditions that pertain in virtually all aquaria.
Although they will always be present, they will be in the minority, and heterotrophs (both obligate aerobes and micoaerophilics) predominate.

Syd.

[Donna]

Anyway, I actually put some in a little tank today and will start experimenting with it and see how it goes with some of my plants. I looked at the invoice, it actually cost me $44.99.

I shouldn't be surprised that the advertising is partly correct.

The tank has been set up for 4 hours and the water is still very black. I am only using a little aqua one filter the kind that sticks on the side of the tank. I will rinse it out tomorrow and keep going.

The soil is also very uneven, does anyone know a tool I can use to level it?

Thanks,

Donna

[mm123]

sorry, my mistake... 9kg is the bag im thinking. i got confused.

go into their shop and look at their cichlid display tank. It has eco-complete in it and its AMAZING!

The rich black substrate brings the colours of the fish and limestone rock out better than anything i have seen. Apparently it buffers water as good if not better than lime sand

you sure? any plants in there???

[Pyro-San]

The tank has been set up for 4 hours and the water is still very black. I am only using a little aqua one filter the kind that sticks on the side of the tank. I will rinse it out tomorrow and keep going.

The soil is also very uneven, does anyone know a tool I can use to level it?

Thanks,

Donna

I use the Eco Complete in my 4' tank, when I initially put it in the tank (fortunatly there were no fish in there) it was quite cloudy for at least 24 hours and then kicked off a mini cycle and then cleared up prefectly. The plants love it.

I stuck my hand in the tank and just flattened it out as best I could, when I took my hand out of the tank it was covered in what seemed like black sludge but was only really silt from the eco complete and washed off without a problem (in clean water )