number of ocellatus gold in a 6x2x2
#1
Posted 14 December 2003 - 04:25 AM
what does everyone think this tank will look like when complete and will the stress levels amongst the males be too high for the females to handle or will things run pretty smoothly
cheers in advance
L
#2
Posted 14 December 2003 - 03:21 PM
Not sure how they'd go in the setup you described, but if you were going to try it, you would probably need to put some rockwork in as well to hide them from each other's line of vision, or I think there would be a bit of aggro in there.
My occellatus have always bred in pairs, so I don't know about the 1:4 ratio, maybe others have had different experience?
Good luck
Colleen
#3
Posted 14 December 2003 - 05:31 PM
I also have most of my occies in pairs in smaller tanks, but I also have 2 blue males with 4 blue females in a 3'. They have sorted themselves into two subcolonies of one:two.
wys
#4
Posted 14 December 2003 - 06:30 PM
Occelatus are slow growing especially when young, can get very aggresive are fetch a fair price.
i wud go for 100 multi's instead
#5
Posted 14 December 2003 - 09:45 PM
why dont u just try to get a small colony going? say 8?
anyway, good luck
lee
#6
Posted 14 December 2003 - 10:39 PM
From what ive seen of breeders on the internet and locally the majority of them seem to get their occies to produce maximum amounts of fry by keeping an overwhelming amount of females to each male. When one female has a brood in a pair situation the male is forced into the quiet corner for the duration of the females brood tending time and therefore the production of eggs grinds to a halt until the fry are released by the female,
However in a group situation, after the male has spawned with the first female he can simply start to court female number 2, then 3 and so on, this would result in a constant stream of fry being produced by the breeding tank and therefore a much more steady income
Good plan gee and i hope it works out
Blake
#7
Posted 14 December 2003 - 11:01 PM
And i think what blake was trying to say was that, if geemaril wanted a large colony fish he would be much better off getting multies... because occies rarley breed in colonies.
lee
#8
Posted 15 December 2003 - 02:26 AM
i back lee up 100% on what he has said.
If they do only pair up what do u do with the uther fish who will be alone?
i am sure there are much better things to do with a 6 x 2 x 2 but i guess it is how much money u got and ur personal preferance.....
#9
Posted 15 December 2003 - 05:13 PM
Like what a ZAIRE BLUE FRONTS COLONY
B.
#10
Posted 15 December 2003 - 06:39 PM
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#11
Posted 18 December 2003 - 06:01 PM
how does this sound
10x ocellatus gold
16x Cyprichromis leptosoma 'utinta' (8males,8females)
ill eventually be getting more utinta but this should do as a start.
now, who likes the list and does anyone know of any improvements or extra tankmates that would still allow both these species to breed and produce fry?
#12
Posted 18 December 2003 - 06:36 PM
The occelatus i reckon you'd want to start with about 6 of them. This way you can be sure of getting at least a pair, and they won't roam around taking up the whole tank. What might happen with 10 of them is that a few might pair up and take up heaps of floorspace, and the rest will just fragment and take up even more floorspace... lol
You can try a colony of another shellie in there eg multifasciatus, brevis, calliurus, etc.. You could also keep an area of sand open and try sand sifters like enantiopus, featherfins (Opthalmotilapia and Cyatopharynx), etc.. Build up a corner with rocks and keep a rock dweller like Julidochromis, Chalinochromis, and Neolamprologus species.. the list is endless and we have had many species set up in our 6x2x2 raising fry with fry surviving. As long as you have a niche set up for the species you are trying they will keep out of each other's way and you will have a nice little biotope in your tank.
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#13
Posted 18 December 2003 - 08:30 PM
do you rekon i could leave in the vallis and swords that are growing in there or would the fish rip them up?
thanx
Elliot
#14
Posted 19 December 2003 - 12:21 AM
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#15
Posted 19 December 2003 - 02:51 PM
#16
Posted 19 December 2003 - 04:24 PM
Colleen
#17
Posted 19 December 2003 - 09:28 PM
4 x Frontosa
12 x Juldichromis (what ever of the species i preferre)
5 Calvus
4-6 Furcifer
Providing you get them frontosa smaller, so by the time they r grown up the juldi's r too big to be eaten.
Regani would be your best bet of the Juldi's as they get quite large.
Would look awsome with some nice rocks and a few plants
#18
Posted 19 December 2003 - 09:34 PM
Really this post from the start wasnt heading anywhere because in the end it is up to YOU what you put in your aquarium.
I know, believe me i know, how hard it is to choose what fish to put in a tank that large but it is all about personal prefferance.
In my 5 x 2 x 2 i have the following fish
2 Neolamprologus Pulcher 'Daffodil Brichardi'
7 Neolamprologus Leleupi
1 Frontosa
7 Neolamprologus Cylindricus
8 Neolamprologus Multifasciatus
1 Tropheus Brichardi 'Katonga'
2 Juldichromis Dickfeldi
3 Juldichromis Regani
2 Juldichromis Marlieri
2 Neolamprologus Caudopunctuatus
1 Neolamprologus tretocephalus
3 Altolamprologus Compressiceps 'Golden Heads'
8 bristlenose plecs
Now this is what i wanted in my 5 x 2 x 2 and have since made certain desicions to remove some species and save the muney to get a couple more, to match my prefferance.
No-one really told me what fish to get, they gave me ideas and i made the choice.
So goodluck in stocking your 6 x 2 x 2!
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