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#1 Substratum

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 07:13 PM

Hi experts.

 

 

So here is the story.

 

I have a heavily planted and heavily stocked 3ft tank. I have 1 x EHEIM 2226 and 1 x EHEIM 2228 canister filter and I am just setting up a nitrate reactor on this thing and I noticed that the PH is quite low ()it is hovering around 6.8 when the PH of the tap water is around 7.4. I've tested for all the nasties. 0 Ammonia, 0 Nitrite and 10ppm Nitrate. GH and KH are 75 and 50 respectively.

 

I am trying to figure out why the tank PH has dropped. 

 

The only thing that I can think of is that the water is not being aerated enough however I have consistently had one of the return lines with multijet output spraying directly into the water to aerate. I've now turned the other one around so that both directly hit the water to aerate.

 

Are there any other common reasons for the water to become acidic that i may have not thought of?

 

cheers

 

 



#2 Rovik

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Posted 09 June 2015 - 09:02 PM

Before I answer, Are you running CO2 injection ? Try taking a sample of water, leaving it in a cup overnight and measuring the pH again. Does it change ????

 

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I wouldn't be worried about it to much, in fact 6.8 is the Ideal pH for most aquatic plants as it offers the most balanced pH for nutrient uptake....

 

pH decreasing is a fairly common phenomenon in heavily planted tanks, there are a few causes, but without going into too much detail:

  1. Acidic substrates such as aquasoils will reduce pH
  2. So will, Fish/Bacteria (Most living things) as they produce acidic wastes...
  3. Plants will consume KH as a source of carbon (In the absents of adequate CO2) and by effect, decrease you pH

 

The solution is easy, add more KH.... Increase your KH to  5/6'dKH ( >100 ppm) and this should make a difference.

Raising you KH will generally bring your pH up and stabilize it there.

 

See below for more details about this relationship:

 

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For planted aquariums, I suggest using a Potassium based KH buffer as opposed to the traditional sodium based bicarbs. 

The potassium based buffers increase you KH and Potassium (Beneficial for the plants) simultaneously.

 

 

In rare cases where raising the KH does little to the pH, especially in older established aquariums with pH controlled, CO2 injection. Addition of a strong base, usually KOH (Potassium Hydroxide - Strong, instant pH up) is used to neutralise built up organic acids in the tank and restore pH without adding excessive amounts of KH. This is more of a specialist case and would required a few pages worth for a full explanation. Note that KOH in "shelf" concentrations must be handled with care and dosed carefully as it can induce potentially fatal jumps in pH if used incorrectly.

 

 

In conclusion, add a couple teaspoons of KH generator and that will bring you pH up.

For most planted tanks, aim for 5 to 6 degrees KH = 107ppm

 

Hope this Helps,

Rovik.



#3 Substratum

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 08:03 AM

thanks for the help. i am not running c02 injection i dose the tank twice a week with liquid c02 and other fertilisers.

i will try the tank water thing after a day in a cup.

#4 Leigh

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 10:19 AM

Whats your substrate?



#5 Jules

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Posted 10 June 2015 - 10:51 AM

Will driftwood not soften the water and lower ph too perhaps? Assuming you have drift wood in there.



#6 Substratum

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Posted 11 June 2015 - 06:16 PM

i have about an inch of laterite as a base with another inch of small stones (normal aquarium gravel)




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