33 replies to this topic

[myster619]

Some of the shops worry me when they sell balloon convicts, short body terrors and texas cichlids etc for triple the price like this is something special. Speaks a lot about their stance in the fish hobby. Those fishes are probably cursing us to death for intentionally producing them.

[myster619]

What about EBJD's then? 80% are prone to deformities and retardation. Where do we stand on that?

 

Yet some keep breeding them because they can fetch good money

 

I think people/shops who keep and breed deformed fishes and hybrids should not be sold any pure healthy fish at all. 

Edited by myster619, 13 December 2013 - 02:42 PM.

[Naraic]

Yet some keep breeding them because they can fetch good money

 

And that sir is the entire problem with the current state of the hobby, some shops may provide for the demand of line bred traits yet they are not the ones perpetrating the 'sin' of breeding or supplying deformed fish.

 

It is the breeders and wholesalers themselves as well as portion of the hobbyists themselves are the money grubbing moral-less who undercut other hobbyists with 'pure' or 'higher quality' stock to make a quick buck. Yet other hobbyist's lap their fish up to save a buck.

 

If long fin bristlenose weren't so popular then why would every shop sell out of them so quickly, the demand is there and it is the stores major function to supply that demand. So this 'issue' needs to be addressed by the hobbyists and the breeders, the stores and general public are in no-where's-ville as far as this issue is concerned.

 

I won't even get started on the Goldfish, 90% of which have been line bred with some deformity or another and seem to be hugely popular and for the most part healthy and functional.

 

My view anyway, your entitiled to disagree and many will but thats their perogative.

Edited by Naraic, 12 December 2013 - 01:54 PM.

[myster619]

MJ said start with the man in the mirror. Pinning it on "public" and using words like "demand and supply" does not justify the act anymore. The fish can't speak but we can for them.

[MrLeifBeaver]

This is a very interesting topic! I am really please to see this is nice open discussion and not an arguement. Well done all!

[Naraic]

Oh the irony of using Michael Jackson as a reference on deformed fish thread is not wasted on me...

[malawiman85]

Education, Education, Education.

Fish keeping is an interesting hobby because there is such a taboo about hybridisation and deformity.

Problem is, in my view, Noob fish keepers see an "interesting" fish and decide to buy it with no real knowledge of right and wrong. Petshops/LFS have a HUGE responsibility to ensure customers are not sold deformed or hybrid fish. If they do want to sell such individuals, the customer should be made aware of the deformity and the fact that its frowned upon to breed and on sell such fish. 

[Westie]

Um deformed yes... hybrid NO

Plus I wouldn't try and ping a LFS with the blame for deformed fish. Some shops could be partly to blame.

[Fox]

Once again I took some time out and looked at a couple of shops today.
One of them should shut the bloody doors and take a hard look at how they run their business. Dead, deformed, hybrids, way overpriced.
Bloody disgusting!

[Westie]

Chain store?

[jeffblack]

How long until this post get's deleted when I mention a sponsor was selling the crappiest electric yellows I have ever seen that  looked like they had been put in a vice and turned 90 degrees. Not sure where the stomach had disappeared to..... nice colours though... perhaps it was a "temporary ailment" 

[Fox]

No not a chain store

[Westie]

jeff why not tell the store directly what you think
az you too should say something

if you see something wrong point it out. if they do nothing then walk.
its sad, but no point saying anything on here

[sandgroper]

I just never go back, they will go under eventually. It's pointless telling them when it's as obvious as the nose on there face.