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#1 Jamievb

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Posted 19 February 2016 - 10:34 PM

Hi guys I am a new member and have a query if anyone can help. I purchased a second hand tank with a whole bunch of large cichlids. One looks pretty sick with a sore eye and doesn't move far from just sitting at the bottom and looking asleep.
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Can anyone help me diagnose the problem. I have another smaller tank with smaller cichlids that I was thinking about moving him to. The other bigger fish in the bigger tank are bullying him? If he is moved will he spread any sickness to other smaller fish?

Also I tried moving a smaller silver shark fish in the larger tank as a test but unfortunately he was mauled within 5 minutes. Is there any techniques that I could use to make the larger cichlids play nice with the smaller ones if they were combined into one community tank?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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#2 malawiman85

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Posted 20 February 2016 - 07:26 AM

Hi mate,

This thread will get moved to the Fish Health and Diseases section I reckon...Just thought id mention it in case it seems to disappear.

You have provided a bit of information but there are a few key bits of info missing so that someone can help you.
- species of big cichlids... some are chilled out some are super territorial little monsters.
- Size of big tank, size of little tank.
- Number of big fish, number of small fish.
- Filtration, tank decor, etc.
- Water quality - nitrate levels, water change frequency, etc.
- Diet.
-Is it just one eye, when did the problem start and what did it look like at the time?
- Any problems with other fish? (hard to tell but the little guy in the back ground looks skinny).
- Any other observations such as bullying.

One cloudy eye is often the result of infection/issue after an injury possibly from aggression in the tank, possibly from being startled and swimming into decor, who knows?

If the only problem in your tank is this fish and there are no other signs of illness like a sunken belly, wounds or blotches then it is likely an easy fix (maybe not for this fish but for the health of your tank).

Both eyes is more likely an issue with water quality, eye flukes or some other irritant.

In the case of it being just one eye it should respond well to high water quality. If it doesnt, antibiotics might help.
At any rate, I would isolate the fish and try feeding a very, very small amount once a day and water change daily.

Edited by malawiman85, 20 February 2016 - 07:30 AM.


#3 Jamievb

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Posted 26 February 2016 - 10:58 PM

Alas the little blue bugger died.

I ended up moving the small cichlids to the bigger tank and is seems to be great except the big fish are now bullying my favorite which is a German red cichlid.
This guy
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And these guys are the main culprits.
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Sorry I don't know what the specie variants they are. The tank is 6x1.5x1.5 about 360 lts. I keep having to take the little red out for a day or two of recovery because he looks absolutely exhausted and bashed up.

I have crushed coral driftwood and heaps of rocks in the tank. There's about 25 fish in the tank and I have a canister filter. I change the water and extract fish waste at least once weekly.

Any suggestions?


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#4 Buccal

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 09:58 AM

You said bigger fish in tank are bullying,, but you put a question mark after to turn it into a question because obviously your not sure.
You must observe things for great lengths of time, sometimes it's a individual or two problem bullies,,, always easier to just remove those fish, and remember it's the size of aggression, not the size of the fish,, a 6cm fish can easily take on a 15cm fish.

#5 Buccal

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 10:11 AM

By the way, that big algae eater in there isn't sucking the faces off your fish is he,, particular individuals are notorious butt holes.

#6 sandgroper

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 03:47 PM

A common Bristlenose would be a better option.



#7 Jamievb

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 06:18 PM

Yeah I have him
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And him

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And another little Pleco as well. I inherited these fish from the last tank owner. Some of them seem incompatible. I think he took his kids to the store and they picked what they wanted hence the incompatibilities.


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#8 Jamievb

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 06:23 PM

You're right that algae eater is a bit of a chaser as well but he seems to pick on the big fellas though.


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#9 Buccal

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Posted 27 February 2016 - 10:54 PM

You should still be able to get away with this mixture, just weed out problem fish and it mellows out.




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