19 replies to this topic

[Jules]

love these guys so much, im saving up for a pair.
found some one who can get them for a good price too
can any one give me good advice, actual size (i have read 30cm disc diameter to 75cm disc diameter ) and recommended tank sizes, tank mates (would my Jardini and birchers go with em?)

thanks
Jules

[kamalau]

can get up to 70cm disc for females males usually stay smaller 6x18x18 will be fine till 25cm-30cm disc 6x2x2 is fine till they reach around 45cm-50cm disc then need wider tank
tankmate nuthing to small or the rays will eat them and nothing that will harras the rays like fin nippers and fish that will suck on it like plecos and sometimes flagtails will try and suck on the back of the rays
sara and bichirs are fine

[Warby]

I know *NOTHING* about them so take this purely as it is intended - a question - but would you really consider a tank only 5-10cm wider than the disc to be "fine" for these rays? Maybe it's just my lack of understanding but that to me just seems REALLY cramped..

[Juls]

You would want 3 ft wide tank definatly for long term there was a few 5x3x2.5s around I think vebas have a second hand one ATM.

The few people I saw with them kept them in a 1ft deep 4x8 ft pond. Inside a temp regulated fish shed.

But these where still pups really about 8" in size.

Once they got to 20" I'd say you'd need something more like 2 ft deep 12x6ft.

The problem with these is most people kill them before they get very big at all and part of the problem is starting out with too smaller home.

The plan to upgrade as they grow is all very well but finding another 2-3k to upgrade every 6-12 months isn't always as simple as one might hope.

Juls

[Warby]

Yeah from the little I've read about and seen of them I would have thought an indoor pond/lagoon type setup specifically designed around the needs of the ray (eg mostly open bottom, soft substrate, a couple of low/wide places for them to hide, etc) far better suited than any typical aquarium..

[Juls]

Yeh the few times I saw them in the flesh the owners had learned the hard way about aquariums and motoro's

both had setup fairly big plastic ponds in sheds. They are totally gorgeous animals and I really can see the appeal would love some myself, there is a surprising number around even in WA but interestingly I've never seen one bigger than 10".

Lovely animal but highly impractical.

Juls

[Tucunare]

Hey Juls remember my pond???

[Jules]

What other species are available?
I am aware of Reticulated, Leopoldi etc but have also heard of teacup / dwarf rays?
Are they an available species?

Im thinking now motoro maybe to big for an inhouse feature tank............

[spilo]

hi there
your Reticulated and tea-cup ray are the same ray and there's nothing small about them.. there's also pearl rays here too but a quite pricey.

[Jules]

Think im ready now, but wheres the Rays at?
I cant get hold of Mike W Fish as his website is dowN. Any help?

Thanks

[highlucks]

There was one in the classifieds earlier this week.

[Scales]

That one sold really fast

Go to lfs and they will order it in for you

[Juls]

Try Steve @ Tucanare, he also has a shop in rockingham. If he can't help I'm sure he can point you in the right direction.

Failing that seaview had some last year, they might be able to help.

Juls

[tranced]

Go to lfs and they will order it in for you

thats a tricky one... i dont think they exactly pop up on the lists, and you would probably have to pay up front if they could find one somehow.

[Sarah Jayne]

Kev at malaga Might be able to order them for you. Not 100% sure..

[Scales]

thats a tricky one... i dont think they exactly pop up on the lists, and you would probably have to pay up front if they could find one somehow.

Yes keV at malaga can source them for you also rory at joondalup city farmers and Paul at malaga city barn

[hitman]

yeh roy at joondalup can get a hold off some big ones my freind was gonna get them in to 6x3x2 tho i think from recal they were about 15 to 20 cm

[Seaview Aquariums]

We have been advised by the 2 main wholesalers in Australia that they wont be getting any in at this present time as Motoros are very close to being put on the non allowable import list. They dont want to take the risk of getting some and then being caught out with them if the laws change . Which they say could happen anytime.

Regards
Seaview Team

[bigjohnnofish]

We have been advised by the 2 main wholesalers in Australia that they wont be getting any in at this present time as Motoros are very close to being put on the non allowable import list. They dont want to take the risk of getting some and then being caught out with them if the laws change . Which they say could happen anytime.

Regards
Seaview Team

doh the price of rays has just gone up....... lol....

[TWiST]

id talk to rory, he knows where to get them from