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[scottyhooton]

Please fill out as much as possible below and give us a description of what is wrong with your fish.

Type of fish:Simochromis Diagramma
Symptoms:fat gut , swollen anus
Other tank mates:Tropheus moliro , leluepi longior and bristle nose
Tank size / capacity:4x2x2
Type of Food fed:nutrafin max spiralina flake , chilli red Pellet
Feeding frequency/amount:small amount 2-3 times daily
Substrate:aragonite I think
Type of filtration:2x 2213 plus 2226 eheims
Frequency of filter cleans:month or two
Frequency and % volume of water changes:30%+weekly
Last water change:2 days ago


Water temp:26

Hi guys , what is confusing me is all other fish are fine one of the Tropheus had a funny anus (something hanging out) but a quarantined her for a couple of days and she came good so is now back in the tank. Feeding has been limited over the last few days as I have been verry cautious since putting her back in , in fact most of the fish almost seem too skinny ATM .
But now overnight one of the Simochromis has blown right up , I can't even explain where it would of got so much food from, perhaps she has eaten another fish ! This is a display tank so catching any fish is not easy ... If it is bloat how important is it that I remove her from the tank? I will try to get a picture soon and try to get parameters up tonight but for now I could almost garantee water quality is not an issue

[scottyhooton]

[scottyhooton]

Ammonia : 0.25-0.5
Nitrate : 0
Nitrite : 0
Ph : 8.2

Ok so it would seem my ammonia levels are a little high

[dazzabozza]

What's caused the ammonia to spike Scott? Over-feeding, over-stocked, filters not established?

Daz

[scottyhooton]

The 2226 has only been in for a week but the other 2 are well mature so I'm starting to lean towards overfeeding , there is 13 simmos 14 trophs 6 leluepi and 5 bn's ???

[dazzabozza]

Simmos are pigs too... they're the gremlins of the fish world... don't overfeed (especially after midnight). Add water and they multiply

Crank up the epsom / rift lake salts to help dehydrate the fish.

[scottyhooton]

Thanks Daz will do ....

[scottyhooton]

I have put the affected fish into a qt tank . Have also done a large water change on the main tank .
Should I treat with dmz ? The affected fish or the whole tank with a dmz/food mix ?

[bigjohnnofish]

you have an ammonia spike.... what to do?

first up waterchange... 20-50% depending on what your happy doing....

secondly add prime to your tank to neutralize any ammonia / followed by nitrite.....

add prime every day as per label... untill your biological filtration has caught up....

did you know bacteria numbers double every 15 hours given ideal conditions....

easy!!!

[spite333]

treat the tank with DMZ and the fish in QT tank by the looks of it its to far gone do daily water changes at 50% and cut feeding, by the look in the photos the is heaps of alge to feed on, it is also cuase by stress and i would lose the leluepi and the BN but thats just me there is to much competion for food

CHEERS MIKE

[scottyhooton]

Water change was done last night , will do again tonight . You a correct mike plenty of algea so I won't be feeding the tank

[scottyhooton]

ok so i dont know what was with yesterdays ammo spike because after a w/c last night a test just now has shown 0.00 ammonia . Olli has informed me food may have affected the test and i had fed before i discovered the affected fish. that fish died in QT

so now i have done a half strength treatment with dmz as a preventative for the rest of the tanks population / ie 1gram per 100 ltrs as per Olli's instructions so time will tell

[Gareth]

Wasn't ur Dominant male was it? That would be a shame...
Maybe it was just an individual illness the fish had?

[scottyhooton]

wasn't the dom male gareth , and i hope it was an iscolated illness ..... but i dont think so

[Gareth]

Lucky hey mate...
Lets hope no more die then...

[scottyhooton]

Damn Looks like another one is on the way out !!!!

[Gareth]

best of luck mate, its a very disheartening feeling when money dies....

[scottyhooton]

It's not the money .......... I hate loosing fish especially ones that are hard to get

[choombies]

They not hard to get I got plenty of replacements for ya brother!!
On a serious note I have the same thing happening in my simmo tank lost 2/3 over last couple weeks water is fine nothing has changed recently other than the weather!

[scottyhooton]

Ill let you know how the dmz goes jimbo ... You might have to do the same