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#1 Spin

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:03 PM

What is the best material to use to make tank stands from for a fish shed that has a humid atmosphere. I am not running a reverse cycle aircond so humidity does build up.
I am thinking treat pine and painted? I have used metal tube welded and painted but they have now all rusted over the years and need to be replaced.
What are others using? The stands dont have to be fancy they are in the fish shed not the lounge room. smile.gif

#2 Neakit

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:39 PM

either way you will have issues the best ways would be to use 316 stainless steel or steel stands that are galve dipped.

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:42 PM

Hey neakit I know getting them galv dipped would be best but does spray galv do a good enough job or is it a waste of money.
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#4 Neakit

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 06:48 PM

well when i have used it its been when the steel is still hot from welding. the biggest issue with welding galvanized steel is you need to clean the galv off before you weld or the weld you do has inclusions and looks really bad. If you could heat the whole stand up to about 60 - 70 degrees c you would remove any moisture in the stand and the galv spray would be effective, but realistically thats nearly impossible.

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:02 PM

is the shed a Brick shed ? maybe build brick supports if its only single level tanks ?

#6 Spin

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:33 PM

No not bricks, metal/and fibreglass and multi level tanks. I am thinking treated pine. Anyone else using this in a humid environment? Spin

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:41 PM

I have treated pine bare in my garage that i have made work benchs out of, no problems so far 2 years on, gets damn hot in there, probably not as humid though

#8 STEVEGREEN

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:55 PM

i can help with rust proofing the steel or sealing the timber

www.lanotec.com.au

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 07:59 PM

I use hot dipped stands.
Cold galv spray works, but you have to clean out all the slag if you arc weld and clean off all the welds with a wire brush.
When you paint it, dont worry about drips and spray heaps in there.

How old are the stands.
They should still last 10 years without hot dipping your welds.

#10 Spin

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 08:28 PM

The stands are between 10-12 years I guess, all new when I made them but in the humid environment they were bound to rust. Timber is appealing as it is much easier to build from,- drill and bolts and your done. smile.gif


#11 Spin

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 08:37 PM

QUOTE (STEVEGREEN @ Jan 27 2011, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i can help with rust proofing the steel or sealing the timber

www.lanotec.com.au

cheers
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OK that lanolin product sounds interesting. Do you have a price list somewhere you can PM me? I might be able to use untreated structural pine and use a lanolin product to seal it. What about mold? does it inhibit mold growth on timber once treated?

#12 STEVEGREEN

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:19 PM

270 distributors around WA

i'll give you the first litre for free then i can get a distributor in your area to look after you

20m2 per litre coverage

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#13 Spin

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE (STEVEGREEN @ Jan 27 2011, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
270 distributors around WA

i'll give you the first litre for free then i can get a distributor in your area to look after you

20m2 per litre coverage

cheers
Steve Green

OK thanks Steve I would definitely like to try the product. I will call you tomorrow to discuss pickup. Thanks Spin

#14 Kieran

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 10:32 PM

What about Dexion pallet racking?



#15 STEVEGREEN

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 10:37 PM

regardless of material in a humid environ it will rust ( steel or galv ) , timber will split crack or twist unless protected

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#16 Neakit

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 10:43 PM

i beg to differ, stainless steel will not rust if its only fresh water.

#17 STEVEGREEN

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 10:52 PM

LOL

get in the real world mate

are your stands made of stainless ?

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 10:58 PM

QUOTE (Neakit @ Jan 27 2011, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i beg to differ, stainless steel will not rust if its only fresh water.

''fresh water''....... with plenty of lake salts , hav'nt you got sediment build up any where in you fish room?
any fish keeper worth his salt uses salt , even in soft water, no matter the dilution .... salt is salt and over time the effect will be the same

Edited by scottyhooton, 27 January 2011 - 10:59 PM.


#19 Kieran

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 11:09 PM

Plus lower grade stainlesses will rust more easily. A high grade stainless steel stand would probably cost more than the shed.

#20 Neakit

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 11:31 PM

Cost was never said to be an issue, there fore stainless is an option. scottyhoon have you every worked with stainless?




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